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#291 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 880 weeks ago
I hear all of that with some quite bitter, resentful and occasionaly spiteful lyrics I have ever heard from a middle aged artist.
Well, look at what has transpired over the years. He was the lead singer of one of the biggest bands in history and it all blew up in his face.He's spent over a decade trying to build it into something, and has went through so many different incarnations that its impossible to tour the record behind the true visionaries behind it. He allowed the hype machine to get out of control to the point none of it could live up to those insane expectations.
He also has major issues with women, and doesn't look like those problems were ever solved.
It isn't really a surprise that the album isn't brewing with optimism.
to my understanding it`s good for an artist to face some problems in his life to cope with in his lyrics or his music... i mean does anyone want to listen to axl singing about his boring life as a millionaire?? face it people, axl isn`t 25 anymore and he probably had to deal with a lot of shit in his life... as james says, it`s definitely NOT a surprise to see quite some pessimism in his lyrics.
about that revolving door thing.. i don´t really see the problem here at this point. of course bucket isn`t there anymore, but he wasn´t in 2006 either, so that`s no news. we don´t know about the rest of the lineup. albeit being a great fan of robin, i am as big of a fan of buckethead. however, as important as he is and was to gnr, he was not one of the main writers of chinese democracy. he wrote 2 songs if i`m not mistaken and shines with his solos on other people`s songs, but that`s it. i remember if the world and rhiad being credited as buckethead`s work on here, but we all know how that panned out...
that`s not to say i don`t see his major role on this record, i just don`t look at him as the core of the new line up. that`s another point, there IS a new line up imo. and we all know that if it was up to axl buckethead would be part of this line up right know...
these liner notes are definitely another example of "axl can do whatever he wants and people are bitching" i think.....
i mean... what the fuck is going on with you people? stop the negativity and celebrate the fuckin record coming out!! or listen to some other music and get a life. chinese democracy isn`t the best record ever made and won`t change the music world??? no shit, sherlock...... who the fuck cares? it`s obvious, that a 46 year old rockstar won`t do things like that, but there are people like myself, who will enjoy this album no matter what!! i preordered chinese democracy on amazon and i`ve waited more than 5 years for this day and i don´t care if there`s a fuckin spelling error in the (unfinished) booklet or not...
peace out!!:thumbup:
#292 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 880 weeks ago
Does If The World sound different at all to the demo?
it`s the only track i listened to since it was released on body of lies and i already listened to the bestbuyversion......
and in my opinion it`s a fuckin great song. changes are:
- the mix, it sounds fuller than the demo! the orchestra is fantastic imo
- the lalala part is quiet
- the are some different drums
- the intro is slightly changed with some drums added
- there`s some new lead guitar work by bumble added
i`m fully convinced now that this album will be killer. if you hated the songs before, chances are you won`t like the final versions as well, but i know that nomveber 22nd will be pure musical orgasm to me:thumbup:
#293 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 882 weeks ago
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finally!! chinese democracy starts now!!:haha:
i`m officialy a believer now!!
edit: http://93x.com/home.asp
official promo material i guess...
#294 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Best Buy promotional ads » 882 weeks ago
Something tells me these ads will never hit the airwaves. They are playing off on the election theme, but the election is a couple of weeks away.
... the release of chinese democracy is ONE MONTH away dude!!;)
#295 Re: Guns N' Roses » How many times have you seen GN'R live? » 885 weeks ago
i saw gnr at rock am ring and in nijmegen in 2006...
#296 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR on 'Body of Lies' film soundtrack / confirmed by BP at CD.com » 885 weeks ago
I think this is good news, but BP's word doesn't mix with 'what's on the street'.
How can you take a rumor, and what it was born of and dissect it to say "yeah a song is on the soundtrack to Body Of Lies", but Azoff and Gould weren't there, no Best Buy announcement, no songs played for the Holiday Con crowd.
It doesn't make sense. Me thinks it all or none. Either it's confirmed the deal was done in the last two days, Best Buy-only release, Azoff & Gould were there and played tracks, an a song is gonna be on Body Of Lies.
Or it's ALL bullshit.
he actually said that they DID play the songs.... if you reread the first post:thumbup:
#297 Re: Guns N' Roses » Information on Shackler's Revenge » 887 weeks ago
Interesting to see Robin get a writing credit. I don't hear him on the track at all. But of course that doesn't mean he isn't there. No writing credit to Stinson or Thal though - considering most of us agreed Ron played a solo, you would think that usually counts as writing on the track.
i think he plays throughout the entire song. like the melody behind the rythm guitar...
#298 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses leaker wants your help » 888 weeks ago
fuck this.. i`m probably in the minority on this site,but i didn`t even want any songs to leak. of course i couldn´t resist listening to them when they were out there though...
i mean getting a few leaks is nice, but having 11 unfinished and/or low quality songs from chinese democracy or one of the follow ups is kinda spoiling it imo.
#299 Re: Guns N' Roses » "In Search of Checkmate" » 890 weeks ago
Neemo wrote:if checkmate is anything like catcher i'll be bummed out
that '99 shit sucks IMO
Really? Based off CITR and Chinese D, I'm definitely interested in hearing more of the 99' era stuff.
there is a chinese democracy from `99?
if so, that`s definitely news for me.... great news anyways..
#300 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Chicken Dinner" Shackler's Revenge Leak » 891 weeks ago
I'm not assuming anything. He has already been mentioned in the first mainstream article about this leak. You see Fortus or Bumble being mentioned?
that`s probably because buckethead is more associated with gnr than bumblefoot. he was around when the new gnr played it`s first shows and more importantly, played the vmas. an event, that`s still responsible for the new gnr`s public image. latest proof for this is the recent billboard article on CD becoming a walmart exclusive. in addition to that he plays on almost all the leaks, that are out there..
We already know Bucket wrote the fucking thing so why the need to try and diminish his contributions? Its amazing how the guy continues to own songs leak after leak but still cant get respect. We already know Ron is on the track also. He said he was.
i`m not trying to diminish anything. while i`m not a fan of buckethead`s solo stuff (i think some of it is good though), his work in gnr is absolutely amazing and he`s the guitarist i want to see on stage along with robin.
however, i think people on this forum tend to overrate his role in gnr sometimes. shackler is a cool song and especially his solo in IRS is mind blowing in my opinion, but he doesn`t "own" the leaks. i`m willing to bet, that none of the stuff we`ve heard so far, except for shackler`s revenge and if the world to some extent were written by him. all the stuff was there before. he obviously took them to another level... some of his work isn`t that brilliant though.
anyways... don`t get me wrong. i want to see him back in gnr as much as any buckethead fan here, i just wanted to point out, that it isn`t him playing lead on shackler`s revenge in my opinion. and i`m not sure wether that`s a good thing...
