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#3071 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 692 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

to be fair to ron it's gotta be embarrassing trying to answer these questions by this stage. it is some BS but at the very least it's not the inane jibber jabber of ashba.

Choice he made. He joined in 06, not 86. He should know the deal. I actually prefer Ashba cause though he sounds like a guy who's been in the desert a little too long to us, his bs is at least pulp enough to serve a purpose in the media. If you can't swing that, go the Stinson/Finck/BH route.

he obv doesn't feel it's his place to give specifics as to why there's no movement (on anything). it'd be nice for him to have mor to talk to gnr fans about but sure what can you do.. it's not exactly his fault y'know?? (it's axl's fault!)

It's his fault when he tries to "invent" something to say.


i do disagree w/him regarding albums.
it may well be that abandoning the traditional album format might be the best thing for axl/gnr. but it's not for me. the album still has a special place. like especially when i'm stoned.
the excuse that it's too much hard work doesn't wash either. it's not been exactly easy getting live shows released, there's nothing to suggest releasing individual songs would be the easier route/or worthwhile for that matter.
but maybe give it a go. at this stage it's really give fuckin anything a go. the ethos seems to be don't just do something, sit around instead..

A single is cool for certain situations but as a "release" it's simply too short for the medium. They probably wouldn't even get my money if they did that since I have no interest in having a single in my shelf (of which there likely wouldn't even be a physical copy). If it's going to come from my computer anyway I know how to type y-o-u-t-u-b-e.

#3072 Re: The Sunset Strip » Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer) » 692 weeks ago

No, not at all. I'm not saying if you like Halloween you're an idiot, but if their goal always is to make sure the dumbest guy in the room appreciates something there never would be a Mike Myers in the first place. We'd still be watching silent movies in black and white with dudes throwing buckets of water at each other. I mean, it wasn't terrible. I'd give it about half pot, but what's really the point of making something average?

Their thinking seems to be "we have this good cake, but a lot of people like beef so let's just add that". These days they don't even make the cake. They just go to Woolies or dig some shit up from the freezer and sell it. Ie. the scene by scene second half of the movie.

The irony is that I'm pretty sure most that liked the movie would still like it if they had had the balls to try something original for the third act. But you know, it's safer to make 50 million steadily than 10 here and 200 there.

#3073 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 692 weeks ago

Just giving him some friendly advice to cut the bs, he's not very good at it. If there's nothing to say or you can't say, don't say anything.

I've always appreciated his willingness to communicate with fans but if it's gonna be faux album talk just to try and please he really doesn't have to. Tell us a funny backstage story or something. At this point we all know new music comes if and when it comes.

#3074 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 692 weeks ago

Thal: "There's been talk all the time within us about the next album and what we're going to do and when we're going to do it. But, you know, life always gets in the way. Things get in the way. It's hard to have the momentum and the focus and everything that you need. It's hard to put everything aside and do a whole album.

"I've been thinking about going to work, but you know, life gets in the way."

"Personally, I don't want to do an album. I would like to just do a song. Let's just bite off a song and get a song out there and then bite off another song and get that out there. It's easier to do.

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"Look, waiting for an album to get done is just too much. I can't do it myself. If I waited to finish an album, it still wouldn't be done and the album still wouldn't be out.

Coming from a guy who's released albums, even a GN'R album, this makes a lot of sense.

"When there's so much touring and so much other stuff going on, don't try and take on 14 songs. Do a song, then another song, then another song and then figure it out from there."

Yes, that's why every band is doing this. Call Dr Pepper, we got a one sip campaign for you. "One song, one sip. Moderation is good says the Dr."

One advice Ron, if you're going to take one for the team and pretend your boss' follies are actually brilliant stratagems make sure you don't come off as a rambling idiot whilst doing it.

THE funniest thing about this though is that it seems the lead guitarist of GN'R is using an interview to try and communicate with his boss.

#3075 Re: The Sunset Strip » Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer) » 692 weeks ago

Zombie had some good visuals in Halloween and his white trash portraits were over the top but realistic. That's pretty much the end of it though. It definitely doesn't help when the money vultures starts messing with mediocre work either.

I propose we start subsidizing movie tickets for anyone with an IQ under 95 so the industry doesn't have to take their primitive wants into account when making films anymore. These remakes are the equivalent of rattling a set of keys to a baby.

#3076 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF » 692 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Slash stole some shit from Eddie Trunk's radio show studio. Eddie talked (in a friendly way) about it on TMS. It was some really rare UFO stuff I believe, and when Eddie confronted him about it (he saw him do it) Slash denied it and then had to fess up when Eddie started to make a big deal about it and gave it back. But yeah, Slash does steal shit. 16

So funny that he tried to deny it. Like Eddie fucking Trunk would accuse him of something like that if he wasn't absolutely sure. Reminds me of cops when a guy totally unprompted says "I haven't been drinking officer".

I'm actually shocked. A 50 year old millionaire going around boosting stuff. I can sorta see someone doing that when they're young and reckless, but now? Still? And we're not talking a pack of batteries at 7/11, no, let's jack some rare, personal stuff from the guy who's gonna write my story in the paper!

#3077 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF » 692 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Lol, why not? He's been caught in a big lie at least once. He still thinks it's ok to steal if the victim is rich.

What's the basis for that second statement?

When asked on Stern last year if he felt bad about stealing from some store chain back in the day he said "hell no". He speaks about his "cleptomaniac phase" as if that's something people go through. Couple that with going behind your band mates back, then lying to their faces and you got some questionable ethics.

As for the first, Slash goes to see Axl to apologise and sort out their problems, in return he's not allowed to speak to Axl - and then Axl's camp releases to the media a venomous press release designed to break up Velvet Revolver...and yet Slash is apparently the bad guy to the fans in this scenario? Don't understand that logic.

Also, I'm not 100% sure Slash entirely denied ever going to see Axl, I think his initial denial was that he spoke to Axl.

That's what he claims, but in court we would've already established that he's not a reliable witness, so all we know for sure is that he went to Axls house. To do what? Say he's sorry? Why the need for that suddenly? Hoping to make something happen with Axl again is clearly the more likely scenario. Which also explains why he lied about the whole thing to his band afterwards, because he knew that's exactly how they would look at it too.

#3078 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Top 10 GN’R Songs by Ultimate Classic Rock » 692 weeks ago

It's not a political statement, it's personal. He's not making commentary or attempting to intellectualize some problem. He's just venting, channeling.

Nor should we assume it's hateful or based in genuine bigotry since there's absolutely nothing else apart from this song to suggest Axl holds or have held any such attitudes. To the contrary his bodyguard is black, his maid/manager an immigrant and his lead guitarist a mulatto of English decent. On the other hand we have plenty of examples of Axl using "bigger issues" to express his personal feelings. Get In The Ring is not an attack on tabloid journalism, it's an attack on some very specific people. He could easily have made a broader statement, but that's never been his style. Mick Wall pissed him off, he's gonna speak on it. Some homosexuals made him feel uncomfortable, he's gonna speak on it.

He doesn't like religion, but he still wears a cross. What's that about? There's no reason to suspect what you call "an excuse" isn't his honest opinion. It's not an accident, he knew what he was doing. You think he thought he'd somehow "win people over" with a blatant racist statement? That there wouldn't be a backlash? If not then why the hell do it? There's absolutely nothing to gain here.

The reason people "forgave him" was popularity of course, but also because there was never any smoke. Never some attention seeker claiming to have been bigoted by him. In a time where any dirt on Mr. Rose was gold to a newspaper you have nothing. So I think we can safely assume he is not or never was a bigot.

I think he did it because those things were what inspired him to write that song in that moment, and he wasn't about to change that just because it wasn't "correct". To hell with the consequences. There's something pure and uncompromising about that.

#3079 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Top 10 GN’R Songs by Ultimate Classic Rock » 692 weeks ago

Beauty in art doesn't have to be pretty. Don't know what else to call it either. Brilliant doesn't seem right, "kick ass" would be inappropriate, and I won't say I like it despite the lyrical content either as I think it's an integral part of the song.

Don't think it's hateful or venomous. A little base yes, but the delivery veers on the side of playful. He's aware of what he's doing, it's not an angry rant. Still it's the way he feels. It's not really a bigot attack either, it's an attack on anything different, irritating or senseless he feels is trying to impose itself on him. Obviously he doesn't hate all these people, nor do I think he really feels all black men or homosexuals deserve to be addressed by those derogatory terms, but if he's walking by some religious group taking things a bit too serious, or he sees two men flaunting their sexuality in the street he might as a response say to himself any of those words.

In the end it's no different than deeming somebody a fucking Canadian, inbred redneck or those cowardly french. He's just deliberately using the words you are not allowed to use. And I do think most people share his sentiments on that level in that when we see something radically different at the very least you are going to think "I wouldn't be caught dead in that". And to justify yourself you may denigrate them in your own mind.

For somebody as high profile as Axl Rose to do that in the late 80s is really extraordinary. To just burst that out totally unadulterated, it's special, it's an event. He's not breaking any boundaries either. You're still not allowed to say what he said, much less so. So every time you get to the line "Police and..." all the controversy you know it must have been comes right back to you. Like watching an eternal train wreck. He's treading in territory that may never be acceptable to tread in and he's doing it at the ascendancy of his career.

To me that is the kind of art that happens not because the artist wants to, but because he has to.

#3080 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Top 10 GN’R Songs by Ultimate Classic Rock » 692 weeks ago

Bono wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

One In A Million - Just a beautiful song.

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I understand why people love this song. The performances vocally and musically kick ass but I really question the word "beautiful" to describe the song especially when you leave it just at that.  You gave reasons for the other songs, yet the most controversial song in their catelogue, one that borders on hate speech and you simply refer to it as "Just a  beautiful song"?  I must be missing something but to me a "beautiful song" should be beautiful "inside and out".  The "inside" of this song is anything but beautiful. In fact it's rather ugly.

Apart from its brilliant musical parts it's also honest. He probably knows he's not allowed to say it, but he goes ahead and does it anyway because that's how he feels. There's no political statement here, just a bold and unique outburst of emotion and you can feel it in the words.

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