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#331 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 267 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:polluxlm wrote:What are they going to write about? Where to hide all the cash? .
My thoughts too. I'd rather have the stuff that was written about how they all hated each other. That at least had some fire behind it at the time. Same with whatever things they recorded instrumentally in 94-96, they had a lot more to prove then.
60 years olds inspired by reunion payoffs and divorces? Not so exciting.
So all the other bands that are huge don't have things to write about either lol
If Axl, Slash and Duff cant find anything to write about then they should just hang it up.Its crazy the excuses some GNR fans make for GNR.
Dude, I'm not making excuses. I'm pointing out as fans of this band and particularly, since we all stuck around through this decades long saga, fans of music written and sung by Axl Rose that we should be happy with whatever we get.
Those other bands can still get together and write collectively as a group? Good for them. The band we like hasn't operated that way since 86. If they tried it could go well or it could lead to this all falling apart and us getting nothing.
Hopefully we get the vault unloaded as a new album and some years down the line this leads to either a proper boxset release or eventually leaks.
#332 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 267 weeks ago
What are they going to write about? Where to hide all the cash? .
My thoughts too. I'd rather have the stuff that was written about how they all hated each other. That at least had some fire behind it at the time. Same with whatever things they recorded instrumentally in 94-96, they had a lot more to prove then.
60 years olds inspired by reunion payoffs and divorces? Not so exciting.
#333 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 267 weeks ago
If there is new post reunion written material it will be done in the same way that they did the newly written material for UYI.
Each of them brining in ideas and sketches of songs, tapes being ferried back and forth to Axl Manor, eventually working them into complete instrumentals, Axl then labouring over them and adding his vocals for 1-2 years whilst the rest of the band got high.
It will be like that, except less getting high and instead of tapes it's sending files to each other online. They aren't jamming in a van anymore and haven't since 1985/86.
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I still don't see the issue with them reworking Axl's CD sessions vault either. If you want those CD lineup versions, getting these versions out of the way is the path towards those seeing the light of day.
#334 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 267 weeks ago
I really hate bringing Trump into this, but he wanted to pull out since 2016 and was talked out of it by generals and the intelligence community because of this very issue and the ramifications including Taiwan. He began negotiations with the Taliban per their advice to get out. The Taliban broke that agreement with what they were supposed to do, so that deal ended.
According to everything I've read, Biden was advised exactly how Trump was and didn't listen. Now he's saying he was hamstrung by Trump's deal, but the deal had already been broken, there was no deal to be tied to. And he'd already started breaking a bunch of Trump deals.
The way this is being spun is something else after four years of complaining Trump didn't listen to the experts or his Generals or intelligence agencies. There is no daylight between Trumpers and progressives. Biden admin were backlogged with civilians wanting out, so saying they *didn't* want out is a lie, and to blame them after swearing to them this wouldn't happen is pretty gross.
Everyone wanted out, it's how you get out. Btw, an American hasn't been killed there in 18 months. Thousands of Afghan military have been. Saying they didn't fight is also a lie.
*clap* *clap* *clap*
100%. 20 years of saying Afghanistan are partners and then sold them down the river, against all military and intelligence advice. All for optics.
#335 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 267 weeks ago
The thing I find kinda crazy is that of the CD tracks they're playing they've gone for some that I really didn't expect (Better, Prostitute, Madagascar) over the more obvious "traditional" sounding rock tracks (I.R.S., Street of Dreams).
Imagine him trying to sing those these days. Neither have featured since 2012.
#336 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 267 weeks ago
You'd think our government would have had a better exit strategy.
At this stage, I think we should have all learned from history and realised we should stop thinking that 
Trump screwed up the terms of the exit.
Biden screwed up the execution of the exit operation.
#337 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 267 weeks ago
I don't get folk who go on about "I wish they wouldn't release these songs with Slash and Duff, I want the originals from 02, I don't want these versions of the songs".
Getting these versions is the hurdle that needs to be cleared if you ever EVER want to hear how these songs sounded with the CD lineup. Getting a release of this music out the door gets us 1) closer to any sort of unloading of old demos, vault boxset type release in the future 2) kills the mystique any of these songs have and reduces their trade value.
If any of this shit is out there and someone who's been sat on lets just say The General for the past decade sees an announced tracklist for an eventual album and sees their shit on there... they're going to want to get it moved quick before it becomes worth so much less. More trading of shit means songs end up in more hands and make it likelier they end up leaking.
If you ever want to one day hear Axl's CD 2 the way it was "supposed" to have been heard circa 2001-2004 then this hurdle of a new reunion album needs to be cleared.
#338 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 267 weeks ago
My point being that US media has a very predictive script and narrative to dole out when they want attention elsewhere, so expect them to focus on whatever random tragedy they can spin to deflect from Biden's catastrophic international relations. It's what they do. You and anyone else can have the last word, I don't want to derail this topic.
Full agreement here. And no more needed on the topic, understand now the point you were making.
#339 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 267 weeks ago
Also, no wonder Biden seems ambivalent about all of this.
https://www.politico.com/playbook
“By the time Biden became vice president in 2009, the disastrous war in Iraq, the endemic corruption of the Afghan government, and the return of the Taliban had made him a deep skeptic of the American commitment. He became the Obama administration’s strongest voice for getting out of Afghanistan. In 2010, he told RICHARD HOLBROOKE, Obama’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, that the U.S. had to leave Afghanistan regardless of the consequences for women or anyone else. According to Holbrooke’s diary, when he asked about American obligations to Afghans like the girl in the Kabul school, Biden replied with a history lesson from the final U.S. withdrawal from Southeast Asia in 1973: ‘Fuck that, we don’t have to worry about that. We did it in Vietnam, Nixon and Kissinger got away with it.’”
He hasn't given a shit this whole time.
#340 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 267 weeks ago
A diversion will be coming shortly, either some person of color shot before he could kill someone or another "mass" shooting will be brought to the forefront to distract the plebes.
Dude, not sure if you meant it that way but that's dripping with racism. The suggestion that every black person shot by cops was going to kill someone is fucked up.
Back on topic.
Separately thank you for the heads up on the intel on the bounty story being shaky.
This clusterfuck keeps getting worse.
Member of Ashraf Ghani's Administration on @BBCWorld says "let me correct you, the President did not flee. The President was asked to leave to avoid bloodshed. He remains the President of Afghanistan. He chose the people over the position. We don't know when he will return"
— Yalda Hakim (@SkyYaldaHakim) August 16, 2021
An anti-Taliban coalition seems to be forming, including Vice President @AmrullahSaleh2 and Ahmad Massoud, son of Ahmad Shah Massoud - they are in Panjsher, about three hours drive from Kabul #Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/EbuF1UXlNY
— Yalda Hakim (@SkyYaldaHakim) August 16, 2021
