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#3461 Re: The Garden » 2017 Predictions » 489 weeks ago
1.) "conservative" leaders will be elected in France and Germany, concluding the demise of modern progressive ideology.
2.) Trump will let Ryan and McConnell handle the fine print, won't be impeached, and the country will be better off at the end of 2017 then at the start (using employment participation of age eligible workers as the benchmark)
3.) Winds of winter will be released, but late in the year, certainly not before the show starts again.
4.) Guns will conclude their cash in tour and Slash and Axl will amicably go their separate ways. No album.
5.) Guardians will be the most successful marvel
Movie, but Thor will be the best from story. Wonder Woman will do well, but the D.C. Universe will continue to not met expectations. Star Wars will be the dominant movie, but will be more rehashed material.
6.) my favorite book series, the dark tower, will be a huge flop
7.) VR will be the new fad in 2017, ushering in the biggest technological acceptance since the iPhone
#3462 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 489 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:I also remember the Middle East being a lot more stable in January 2009 too, and the lack of regular terrorist attacks in Europe. But tell me again the great success of Obama's foreign and military policy.
I recall Obama cleaning the Republicans clock in January 2009 for 2 reasons:
1. End the War in the Middle East.
2. Economy sucked.What did Obama do?
1. End the War in the Middle East.
2. Economy Improved.
And ending the war resulted in ISIS and the loss of stability in both Iraq and Syria. Just because an idea is popular doesn't mean it's right or the prudent course of action. You can't call the average person a dumbass and then say popular opinion is always the right answer.
I guess Obama deserves credit for the bailout, but I don't know if that was the best option or how much any policy contributes to the macro ability of the economy to having an interest in self correcting. I'm saying the market's upturn recently is due solely to business believing Trump will be better for commerce. I don't think that's a wild leap in assumption as Trump is advertising cutting regulation. Ability to provoke confidence in the system is just as important as massive policies that attempt to influence it.
If Trump does something stupid, we should call him on it. I just don't think feigned righteousness in a cause completely ignored months ago excuses the false narrative that Russia had any real impact on the election. They leaked the truth about the Democrats against a man who made outrageous and offensive comments in a manner unprecedented. It wasn't what the Democrats said that harmed them, it's that they fucking lied about it, got caught, then behaved like it's acceptable behavior they haven't rallied against. Then completely ignored its accuracy telling us to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. The great and powerful Putin was where we should be focused. And that's why I think their sudden disdain for Russia isn't genuine. It's solely from wanting revenge for shattering the facade of the Democratic Party.
#3463 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 489 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:slcpunk wrote:It's been confirmed today that the Russians hacked into our electrical grid this time. Between this and meddling in our election, Trump continues to applaud Putin on Twitter.
Maybe one of you Trump supporters could explain this to us, because I'm really confused right now. We have a foreign country who essentially turned our latest election into a banana republic and is now actively fucking with our power grid. This is a digital attack on our country of epic proportions, and the President elect not only is publicly denying it's happening, but singing praises to the perpetrator.
What patriotic American would ever support this shit?
Except this isn't true. They didn't turn our election into a banana republic. Clinton was a horrible candidate and lost because people like you are content to just smugly dismiss other people. They didn't hack the power grid. They hacked a computer at a power plant with no access to production.
But the GOP told you Russia was a threat and you and Obama yucked it up, claiming the Russian threat wasn't real, but a man becoming a woman was real enough to ruin lives over not playing along.
Why aren't you upset Obama has been a fucking clown that has worsened our international standing? Why aren't you upset that Obama was on vacation in Hawaii or entertaining Jay Z while all this occurred. You were rabid at Bush for 9/11, calling him anything but a white man. But have remained silent on Obama's failure to control isis, Syria, China or Russsia. You backed an inexperienced child who lacked a single achievement and made our country worse for it. No amount of spin can alter the fact that less people are working, more are on welfare and the country is more divided than before he took office.
And your fucking response is to not only exaggerate what did happen, but put all blame on the guy who hasn't even been sworn in yet. You're why Trump won. You're why Obama has been allowed to behave more like a dictator than a president. And Obama is why Russia can fuck with our country with impunity. Hold your beliefs and the people you voted for accountable for their failures. Don't manufacture failures for someone not even in office yet. If Trump has a state dinner for Putin and let's him fuck his wife, then you can talk.
Default to Obama. That's all you got. No accountability. Good thing you voted for Hillary, when shit REALLY goes sideways you can go back to saying you voted for Clinton.
Who else is there to blame? Trump isn't President. He has no connection to Putin. You don't think nor suggest Trump orchestrated or participated in the hacking? Trump's only comment advocating hacking, was an obvious jab at the 30k emails Clinton erased on the server no one claims was hacked by Russia.
If hacking occurred orchestrated by Russia, that means Obama's intelligence and security agencies failed. He sets the priority. My argument is Obama and the majority of the DNC ignored the threat Russia posed. This lack of attention is the only reason one can give for why our intelligence agencies missed it. How can you hold anyone other than Obama and his policies/focus accountable.
I want to move on past the petty bickering. Russia's a threat, glad we're all on board. But admit none of you gave a shit until the Russians aired the dirty laundry of the Democrats and brought the progressive ideology to its knees. So now that we're in agreement they're a threat, let's fucking do something about it. You know, what Obama failed to do the past 8 years as he denied they were an issue.
I also remember the Middle East being a lot more stable in January 2009 too, and the lack of regular terrorist attacks in Europe. But tell me again the great success of Obama's foreign and military policy.
#3464 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 489 weeks ago
lol..... Obama is such a fucking idiot in this clip.
How anyone can watch that clip and not realize what a naieve, bumbling fool Obama has been is beyond me. He's been in control while Russia has grabbed land, Syria decimated its own people and allowed ISIS to rise, and the left can't get enough of him. A fucking clown shoe if there ever was one. Thank god he'll only be remembered positively in the halls of academia by bull dykes and guys who like to watch their wives get fucked by other men.
#3465 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 489 weeks ago
It's been confirmed today that the Russians hacked into our electrical grid this time. Between this and meddling in our election, Trump continues to applaud Putin on Twitter.
Maybe one of you Trump supporters could explain this to us, because I'm really confused right now. We have a foreign country who essentially turned our latest election into a banana republic and is now actively fucking with our power grid. This is a digital attack on our country of epic proportions, and the President elect not only is publicly denying it's happening, but singing praises to the perpetrator.
What patriotic American would ever support this shit?
Except this isn't true. They didn't turn our election into a banana republic. Clinton was a horrible candidate and lost because people like you are content to just smugly dismiss other people. They didn't hack the power grid. They hacked a computer at a power plant with no access to production.
But the GOP told you Russia was a threat and you and Obama yucked it up, claiming the Russian threat wasn't real, but a man becoming a woman was real enough to ruin lives over not playing along.
Why aren't you upset Obama has been a fucking clown that has worsened our international standing? Why aren't you upset that Obama was on vacation in Hawaii or entertaining Jay Z while all this occurred. You were rabid at Bush for 9/11, calling him anything but a white man. But have remained silent on Obama's failure to control isis, Syria, China or Russsia. You backed an inexperienced child who lacked a single achievement and made our country worse for it. No amount of spin can alter the fact that less people are working, more are on welfare and the country is more divided than before he took office.
And your fucking response is to not only exaggerate what did happen, but put all blame on the guy who hasn't even been sworn in yet. You're why Trump won. You're why Obama has been allowed to behave more like a dictator than a president. And Obama is why Russia can fuck with our country with impunity. Hold your beliefs and the people you voted for accountable for their failures. Don't manufacture failures for someone not even in office yet. If Trump has a state dinner for Putin and let's him fuck his wife, then you can talk.
#3466 Re: The Garden » Football » 490 weeks ago
I've no interest in American hand ball, but this concept of elimination series intrigues me
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Don't tell me you're one of those people who find a bunch of guys running back and forth kicking a ball with no real plan or strategy entertaining? Next you'll say NASCAR is fun to watch.
#3467 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 490 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:When you guys try to pull some shit on Randall he comes back so hard with facts it gets silent in here quick. All that said, nobody said fuck about the EC prior to the vote and now it must be abolished. Only Mitch said he isn't asking for it to be abolished. ID, where was your EC outrage prior to the election?
Again, you jump into a thread with your typical ass licking... I made my point, there was nothing else that needed to be said, the more "facts" he pulls out the more it makes my point and shows what a joke the EC is. And yeah... I did feel that way before the election.
Have you started the amendment process yet or is bitching on the internet,thinking your opinion of fair has any fucking bearing outside of your head your only strategy?
We get it. You don't like the electoral college. Trump is a bad guy and you're going to jump for joy when he crashes it all to the ground. Do you have anything else to add because you haven't contributed to this discussion in over a week. Same old shit, no new material.
#3468 Re: The Garden » pets » 490 weeks ago
I had to put my dog of 14 years down a couple years ago. It was hard, but it was what was best for him. Just appreciate the good life you gave him and all the good times.
#3469 Re: The Garden » pets » 490 weeks ago
So sorry man
#3470 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 490 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:I'm not talking about senators. EVs are based on population.
EVs are based on population through the amount of federal legislators in each state. The EV in each state is tied to how many senators and representatives they have. The amount of representatives each state has is based on their 10 year census. No state will have less than 3 and under our current system of 50 states, no state will ever exceed 391.
So there are several states that are overly and under represented. The entire population of California greatly exceeds that of Idaho, Montana, north and South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Wyoming, Utah, Iowa, and Arizona combined.
? The constitution outlines how EVs are handled. Nothing is under or over represented because the rules are clearly defined. Or are you suggesting states with smaller populations should have no EVs?
California had 37.2 million people in the 2010 census. There were 309 million people counted in the US in 2010. Meaning California had approx 12% of the population. Based on their 55 EVs, that puts California at around 10% of the EV count. Trump beat Clinton 306 to 232. Even if you gave California an additional 2% of the EC, or an extra 11 EVs based solely on their population, it would still be 295-243 and Trump would still be President. Of course this is all based on both campaigning under the EC, so it seems quite reasonable to assume Trump would have campaigned in CA should the PV be how we determine our president.
Furthermore, CA has approx 2.4 million illegal immigrants that are counted in its census, so the population of CA in 2010 should have been closer to 35 million, reducing their EV by approx 10%. So one can certainly argue that California is currently over represented in the EC because they have a disproportionate amount of illegal immigrants residing there which are credited to their overall population.
