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#351 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN’R 2022 Tour Thread » 205 weeks ago
I've always wanted Axl doing Nutbush City Limits.
Brian from Ac/Dc does this on occasion and it's awesome. Not Axl but maybe next best thing for that raspy sound.
#352 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 205 weeks ago
Yeah I hear ya, the amount of lost opportunities is countless.
But I was happy to get Absurd and Hardschool streamed, agree it could have been done better for their own benifit and for the hardcores, but if they just keep doing the same thing every year or so I will take that over waiting another 15 years for a new song lol.
But yeah their haphazard nature makes it unpredictable. Like will they drop it at a logical point in the tour, or during a break from all touring, or some other illogical spot. Will they do a ton of promotion or none at all. I always lean towards less cos as you said they kinda roll like a hobby operation. But hey - it's Axl and Slash on the same song...they can serve it up to me however they want....I just wanna hear it these days before the band retires!
#353 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 205 weeks ago
How many legs of this tour planned this year?
Sometimes they've done a leg, then made some small token setlist change to the subsequent legs (like a new cover or varying duffs song etc) - from memory didn't that happen with Absurd? Like we were doing our normal bitch that nothing had changed on year 5 of the reunion or whatever it was then Axl randomly was like "hey at midnight this will be on itunes" or whatever.
I grant...they may do nothing for the rest of our lives, but they're also a little tricky, I wouldn't be surprised if they do 5 shows to warm up then suddenly drop a single or something random.
#354 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 206 weeks ago
Also as wiki says:
The discography of Metallica includes ten studio albums, eight live albums, three extended plays, 43 singles, ten video albums, 42 music videos, one soundtrack album, one collaboration album and three box sets.
I would also describe their general outlook on fans and fan experiences as positive.
GNR's management seems to view fans as an entitled annoyance. The band seems to see us as a legion of individuals most of whom can't be trusted and are out to get them, or on a good day, as a group of people who are the suckers/bunnys dumbly walking around ready to be taken for as much as possible. They have always been a gang. Them against the system. It's all a con. Rip off the labels. Rip off the sucks. Take all you can give nothing back. Look who we are dealing with. They were bikers, drug dealers, junkies, mentally ill rebels and a couple of session players who they pay by the hour. Sure they happen to have a shit ton of talent and made off with a fortune while changing music...but it's always been about what they can get.
Anyways all i'm saying is eventually that kinda attitude will reduce custom. They are so famous that people would pay to use the same drinking fountain where they took a dump last decade...so I'm sure they will get by....but it also will never be what it could be...cos they just don't seem to want it to be. So yeah...I think there's differences from metallica...but that said....1 or 2 songs every couple of years will probably be enough to drag the carcass of our teenage fandom around for a few more years until our pasts catch up with either them or us.
#355 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R 2021 Tour Thread » 207 weeks ago
For the most part I suspect that's spot on.
But I could see if they ran out of finished 1999 songs they might break out ones where they were 3/4 vocally finished and over dub a few missing lines here and there.
I'm thinking of how on some of those demos Axl seemed to sing a tune without words in places or sing words that were very hard to hear. I could imagine a second pass at one or two of those moments if his voice was in ok enough shape...but I agree only once they run out of stuff they can put out with no additional recording....
#356 Re: The Sunset Strip » Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning I trailer » 207 weeks ago
It looks pretty awesome!
I find these movies a guilty pleasure...like mentally I know the whole thing is kinda a bond clone but damn if it's not a good time every time.
#357 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R 2021 Tour Thread » 207 weeks ago
Apparently show is cancelled for weather issues.
Be Interesting to see if he goes rasp for Back in Black though...it's certainly a work out for the rasp and he hasn't done a lot of it since about 2017 - if he nails it then it will give me renewed hope for a raspy album lol.
#358 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 208 weeks ago
Yeah but also think about this…people want new songs written with Slash and Duff. Is Axl really motivated to write new lyrics? What inspires him? He’s decades older now. Do we just all go on the premise that Axl is constantly coming up with lyrics in a notebook or something? I’m not so sure.
Yeah, i mean again it's pure speculation on my part, but there's an argument to say it seems to be angst that caused a lot of his lyrics, like AFD is about the turbulent life on the streets - his youthful trouble with the cops, drugs and the whole LA 1980s scene. UYI is mostly leftovers from that mixed with songs about the pain of getting famous and the drama with the media/labels. Then CD was about the legal troubles and the relationship hells he went though.
These days he seems much happier (no drama during shows etc) so who knows what would inspire a song. He seemed pretty anti-trump. And I'd believe the odd humanitarian issue (civil war etc) can inspire him of course. But fundamentally I think as with a lot of artists he's grown into his own skin. Whatever goes on in his mind he seems to have tempered. He's won at life in terms of money and power and all that worldly stuff. I'm sure he still enjoys music. But creation may not be the desperate emotional outlook these days that it once was. Good for Axl....but yeah probably means these 1999 songs are going to have more juice in them than something he makes in 2022.
#359 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago
My thinking is kinda like.....
For the most part humans are born with hearing and with ears. However sometimes someone is born with no ears, or with deformed ears, or ears that don't work. We find ways to integrate those people, help them fit in with the hearing world, and not be mean to them. But we don't try and say that they CAN hear....we don't try and say that there is no such thing as hearing or that ears are just a sociological invention.
I see sex somewhat the same. There are men and women. For the most part everyone is one or the other but every now and then someone is born with biological differences, so that they may have some unusual combination - such as a penis and ovaries together - or some of their parts may not be functioning in the normal ways. We should be nice to these people and find ways to include them. However that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as men and women in the first place.
I can't see why that's even a contentious issue to me.
As for other gender stuff, there is a social aspect to it as well as what's innate. Like I think about how tough my grandfather's whole generation was compared to mine. Some of it was they were raised and expected to be like that I think. So I think that's a factor in how we act as well. Or look at how socially women now are so much more overtly sexual (instagram etc) publicly than they were in the 1980s. There's aspects to men and women's behaviour that's biological but there's also trends and social pressures.
As for trans stuff.
I know there's real people with gender dysphoria. But it used to be rare. And lots of the modern cases seem to be people that would have fitted under the old order of things. Like we used to be able to have gay people who were certain they were male and just also liked other males. Some of them were effeminate sure but some of them were as tough seeming as any straight jock type. Likewise with lesbians there used to be glam lesbians and butch type lesbians but they didn't need to think they are the other gender. And then there were straight tomboy style girls too - who like men as much as any other girl but they just happen to like traditional male hobbies over girl stuff. And you have straight guys who like theatre and dance and stuff but don't think of themselves as women or want to be with a guy or anything - they just like some hobbies people associate with gayness.
These days we'd be in a rush to reassign all these people. It's almost like the definition of male and female has become narrower not wider.
#360 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 208 weeks ago
Sky Dog wrote:Who knows? He could have a book full of lyrics or nothing…he’s quite an enigma. Chances are better on lyrics than vocals
See I’m not positive about that claim though. We know from previous posts he has recorded vocals. We do not know there are lyrics from which to complete those vocals. Full circle, see Quick Song.
Yeah that's what I'm worried about really.
It's speculation on my part entirely, but like I'm thinking of how he might have lots of songs with melody ideas and very rough vocals - but was waiting for proper inspiration to finish them and write something better to be the finished vocal.
Then here we are now where he might have the finished song ideas, but it's no longer so easy to re perform some of these songs.
So like think of songs recorded in 1999 or that era like State of Grace, then imagine he wants to change up some of the lines near the end cos they are hard to hear - what voice does he do it in? The 1999, the 2006, the 2009, the 2012, the 2016, or the 2019?
I guess it won't matter if the odd line is different as Axl has always had a few voices going...and studio mixing is much easier...but I can just see how it might be a harder prospect now than it used to be performance wise.
I was just saying i think the way the hardschool changes were made from other songs supports that concept in a way, or maybe it just wasn't practical to go fresh logistically with the tours or something. Who knows.
I hope we get some of these songs though. I thought State of Grace was great, and Eye on You despite the jokes we make about Mac Daddy has a really pretty vocal and melody in the other parts. Atlas could be pretty interesting with redone slash stuff.
Exciting to think it's only a couple of months now.
