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#361 Re: The Sunset Strip » Superman Thread. » 638 weeks ago

RaZor wrote:
Me_Wise_Magic wrote:
RaZor wrote:

Saw it and liked it. Russel Crow's Jor-El was bad ass, and I liked how they retold the rest of the origin in flashbacks, so it wasn't so bad watching "another origin story".

The action was awesome, but I agree the final fight sequence was way over the top. 

I like what they did with Lois, in fact it's my favorite version of the character.

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The fact that she figured out Clark Kent is Superman right off the bat, this women IS an ace reporter, not an airhead that is fooled by a pair of glasses. I also like the fact that they didn't have to make her a bitch to she that she is a strong female character.

But I wasn't to happy with Pa Kent.

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Maybe you should have let them die to keep your secret identity?  That's kind of odd from the character that was supposed to give superman his moral guidance. I wished the dialogue would have been "no, you did the right thing helping, but you shouldn't have let them see you". Him operating in hiding would have still made sense and it would have been truer to Pa Kent's character.

And I'm a little confused on the ending.

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Did superman have to kill that family when he snapped Zod's neck?  My wife and I debated this after the movie. I thought he saved them, and cried out because he had to take a life to save the innocent. My wife thinks that the direction Superman snapped Zod's neck had Zod's heat vision slice the. In half, witch is why he cried out, because he had to kill the innocent to save the rest of the world from Zod. The didn't show the family on scene afterwards, and the scene happened so quick that I'm not sure.

Anyway, aside from my gripe about Pa Kent, really enjoyed the flick. Hope it continues to do well so we can see a sequel sooner rather than later.

I know a sequel is going to be even better and tweak some elements of this film.

As for your thoughts

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I personally thought the upset Superman crying over himself killing Zod represented how he now believes there is no of his race that he can turn to or try to confide in now. His planet is gone and the only Kryptonians left are murdering psychopaths. Superman had to stop them because this is before he learns about the proper ways to use the Phantom Zone (besides the drive plans he learned from Jor-EL's blueprints given to Lois) and in most canon, Zod would eventually find a way out and try to wreak havoc again. Zod had reasons for wanting to rebuild even though they were out of line and were going to sacrifice the population of an already stable planet. I noticed in the movie that before the final battle begins, Zod while being furious and vengeful, you can almost see some tears coming across his eyes. His plans have failed and in his mindset he thought he was doing something for the greater good of the Kryptonian race.  Superman after the battle realizes that he must defend Earth and try to set an example; so this problem and amount of destruction doesn't happen at the same amount again. He's the last son of Krypton and from looking at the end scenes trying to be reasonable & friendly with the U.S. government. Will be the symbol of truth, justice, and the American way! In a different fashion though from the comics or earlier film/media canon. Which I think will get more in depth with the character when the sequel rolls around. Perhaps with Lex and Brainiac or another villain all together.

Overall I love this movie and want to see it a second and maybe third time. Just wish movies would lower their costs nowadays and I could plan things together more conveniently.

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It totally makes sense that part of the grief over killing Zod has to do with Kal now being that last Of his people. I took his grief in the scene to be because it was the first time he's ever had to kill a person. Something like that weighs heavy on any rational, moral mans conscience. But my wife thinks that the grief was because he had to sacrifice that innocent family in order to safe us from Zod.  I kind of want to watch the movie again to see what direction Zod's head turns, and of she's right. I'd be shocked if she was.

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actally, here's an Artie that answers my question: http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/19 … ial-ending

Looks like I was right and my wife was wrong.

#362 Re: The Sunset Strip » Superman Thread. » 638 weeks ago

Me_Wise_Magic wrote:
RaZor wrote:

Saw it and liked it. Russel Crow's Jor-El was bad ass, and I liked how they retold the rest of the origin in flashbacks, so it wasn't so bad watching "another origin story".

The action was awesome, but I agree the final fight sequence was way over the top. 

I like what they did with Lois, in fact it's my favorite version of the character.

Hidden Text:

The fact that she figured out Clark Kent is Superman right off the bat, this women IS an ace reporter, not an airhead that is fooled by a pair of glasses. I also like the fact that they didn't have to make her a bitch to she that she is a strong female character.

But I wasn't to happy with Pa Kent.

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Maybe you should have let them die to keep your secret identity?  That's kind of odd from the character that was supposed to give superman his moral guidance. I wished the dialogue would have been "no, you did the right thing helping, but you shouldn't have let them see you". Him operating in hiding would have still made sense and it would have been truer to Pa Kent's character.

And I'm a little confused on the ending.

Hidden Text:

Did superman have to kill that family when he snapped Zod's neck?  My wife and I debated this after the movie. I thought he saved them, and cried out because he had to take a life to save the innocent. My wife thinks that the direction Superman snapped Zod's neck had Zod's heat vision slice the. In half, witch is why he cried out, because he had to kill the innocent to save the rest of the world from Zod. The didn't show the family on scene afterwards, and the scene happened so quick that I'm not sure.

Anyway, aside from my gripe about Pa Kent, really enjoyed the flick. Hope it continues to do well so we can see a sequel sooner rather than later.

I know a sequel is going to be even better and tweak some elements of this film.

As for your thoughts

Hidden Text:

I personally thought the upset Superman crying over himself killing Zod represented how he now believes there is no of his race that he can turn to or try to confide in now. His planet is gone and the only Kryptonians left are murdering psychopaths. Superman had to stop them because this is before he learns about the proper ways to use the Phantom Zone (besides the drive plans he learned from Jor-EL's blueprints given to Lois) and in most canon, Zod would eventually find a way out and try to wreak havoc again. Zod had reasons for wanting to rebuild even though they were out of line and were going to sacrifice the population of an already stable planet. I noticed in the movie that before the final battle begins, Zod while being furious and vengeful, you can almost see some tears coming across his eyes. His plans have failed and in his mindset he thought he was doing something for the greater good of the Kryptonian race.  Superman after the battle realizes that he must defend Earth and try to set an example; so this problem and amount of destruction doesn't happen at the same amount again. He's the last son of Krypton and from looking at the end scenes trying to be reasonable & friendly with the U.S. government. Will be the symbol of truth, justice, and the American way! In a different fashion though from the comics or earlier film/media canon. Which I think will get more in depth with the character when the sequel rolls around. Perhaps with Lex and Brainiac or another villain all together.

Overall I love this movie and want to see it a second and maybe third time. Just wish movies would lower their costs nowadays and I could plan things together more conveniently.

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It totally makes sense that part of the grief over killing Zod has to do with Kal now being that last Of his people. I took his grief in the scene to be because it was the first time he's ever had to kill a person. Something like that weighs heavy on any rational, moral mans conscience. But my wife thinks that the grief was because he had to sacrifice that innocent family in order to safe us from Zod.  I kind of want to watch the movie again to see what direction Zod's head turns, and of she's right. I'd be shocked if she was.

#363 Re: The Sunset Strip » Superman Thread. » 638 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/14/showbiz/z … n-of-steel. The article where they talk about how the Christian themes were part of the Mythology of Superman and how he wouldn't run from them.

Great article.

"You can save her son. You can save them all"

It's funny though, the original creators or Superman were Jewish, and the character originally had parallels to Moses. Moses was put in a basket and sent down the river to save him from pharaoh, superman was placed in a rocket and sent to earth to save him from a dying planet.

#364 Re: The Sunset Strip » Superman Thread. » 638 weeks ago

Saw it and liked it. Russel Crow's Jor-El was bad ass, and I liked how they retold the rest of the origin in flashbacks, so it wasn't so bad watching "another origin story".

The action was awesome, but I agree the final fight sequence was way over the top. 

I like what they did with Lois, in fact it's my favorite version of the character.

Hidden Text:

The fact that she figured out Clark Kent is Superman right off the bat, this women IS an ace reporter, not an airhead that is fooled by a pair of glasses. I also like the fact that they didn't have to make her a bitch to she that she is a strong female character.

But I wasn't to happy with Pa Kent.

Hidden Text:

Maybe you should have let them die to keep your secret identity?  That's kind of odd from the character that was supposed to give superman his moral guidance. I wished the dialogue would have been "no, you did the right thing helping, but you shouldn't have let them see you". Him operating in hiding would have still made sense and it would have been truer to Pa Kent's character.

And I'm a little confused on the ending.

Hidden Text:

Did superman have to kill that family when he snapped Zod's neck?  My wife and I debated this after the movie. I thought he saved them, and cried out because he had to take a life to save the innocent. My wife thinks that the direction Superman snapped Zod's neck had Zod's heat vision slice the. In half, witch is why he cried out, because he had to kill the innocent to save the rest of the world from Zod. The didn't show the family on scene afterwards, and the scene happened so quick that I'm not sure.

Anyway, aside from my gripe about Pa Kent, really enjoyed the flick. Hope it continues to do well so we can see a sequel sooner rather than later.

#365 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 638 weeks ago

smoke wrote:

My 9 yr old son wants me to take him to a rock show. NIN is definitely not going to be his first show. I'd love it to be VH or Guns. I wish one of them would come back around this way, but both are unlikely to.

Anytime soon, that is.  Crazy show in Tokyo - it's Dave's home away from home I guess, he probably turned it up.

Bon Jovi should be up your way some time next month, they're pretty PG.

#366 Re: The Sunset Strip » Van Halen Discussion » 638 weeks ago

smoke wrote:

Great article thanks! Bisonette along with everyone in that band were all such powerhouses. DLR came off being fired with such a giant FU.:mosh:

Hell yeah. Steve Vai is bad ass. He came out with an awesome solo album last year that turned me on to him big time.

#367 Re: The Garden » 2013 Confederations Cup » 638 weeks ago

RECIFE, BRAZIL -- Two months ago, in a relaxed chat with the press after a Champions League match, Sergio Ramos started to go on about the long, grueling season. "Most of us will have played 70 matches when all is said and done; it's crazy." "Will you skip the Confed Cup then?" asked a journalist. "What? No way. We HAVE to win that [expletive]," he answered laughing.

With that comment, Ramos summarised the very feeling that the rest of the Spanish squad now constantly voices about the increasingly prestigious FIFA tournament: This is no Brazilian vacation, and just like they showed on Sunday in their debut versus Uruguay, they are determined to win the title, tired or not.

Each player finds his own motivation. A sizeable part of the team clearly remembers their unexpected defeat against the United States in the semifinal match of the 2009 edition and indeed wants to win the title this time, as is the case with Ramos himself. His dismal display in that match still works as a driver to get things right now: "No assists to the opposition this time," he jokingly said on Saturday night when reminded of the play that led to the U.S.'s second goal. Fourteen players who made the squad four years ago in South Africa and finished in third position are also present in Brazil, and want to get that monkey off their backs. "We blew it last time and don't want that to happen again," said Andres Iniesta after his impressive performance on Sunday.

For others, especially for the two unanimous leaders of this dressing room, memories of that match only fuel a bigger motivation to win this title: The clock is ticking, and there's not much time left for them to win more silverware at the international level.

"It now takes my body three full days to recover after each 90-minute match," confessed the 33-year-old Xavi Hernandez last week. Since his 15-season senior career started in 1998, he's played almost 700 matches at the top level, muscular injuries becoming more and more frequent as games and kilometres mounted. "We want to win this thing, it's the only title left for this generation," he said right before the tournament started.

His reasons resonate strongly with his partner and friend Iker Casillas, both of them having maintained a deep bond even when the Classico tensions between Real Madrid and Barcelona went beyond their usual astronomical heights a couple of seasons ago.

Since the year started, the 32-year-old Casillas has realised how he's only an injury and/or an especially angry coach away from losing his starting spot with both club and country, therefore wants to make the most of the time he's got left. "After what happened this season, I see this tournament under a very different light," he said before the Confederations Cup kicked off. "Five months without a match taught me not to take certain things for granted, and want to win this title even more now."

When the icons from the two biggest clubs in the country show that level of motivation, it is not surprising that the rest simply follow suit.

"We asked every player about coming to play the tournament before making our final list public. All of them want to be here and are eager to participate. No one asked us not to come to have some rest. Our players are tired, yes, but so are the other teams'." said coach Vicente Del Bosque when he announced the final list.

Indeed, only the injured Xabi Alonso is missing from the core team, although probably the most convincing factor unmentioned by the Marquis of Del Bosque is the impressive array of talent this generation possesses.

Competition to get a place in the final 23-man squad was so high that no one felt they could afford to rest this one out. On Sunday, players such as Fernando Torres, David Villa, David Silva and Jesus Navas did not play a single minute, while Juan Mata, Santi Cazorla and Javi Martinez managed to run around for less than half an hour. They all want to take advantage of every chance to improve their chances of a call-up for the 2014 World Cup, and if they think of complaining about lack of playing time, they only have to remember that Isco, Thiago Alcantara, Michu or Iago Aspas would gladly give up their holidays just to sit on Spain's bench.

"Our motivation to play and win this tournament is intact. This is high-level competition, with every single champion present, and we want to live up to what is expected from us as world champions," said Del Bosque in the tournament's first news conference. After an impressive opening performance and one step closer to the semifinals, it indeed looks as though the Spaniards have come to Brazil determined to win, and to do it in convincing fashion.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blog … ed&id=7026

#368 Re: The Garden » 2013 Confederations Cup » 638 weeks ago

I'm stoked about that first Spain game, they really dominated Uruguay. Their World Cup win 3 years ago was a little unsatisfying because they avoided the 3 best South American teams during the tourney, so it was nice to see them take Uruguay the way they did here.  Hopefully, there won't be any upsets, and we'll get to see a Spain v Brazil final.

I was very disappointed with Mexico, not because they lost, but because they didn't play very well.  I'm not exactly rooting for Mexico here, I'm a US fan and Mexico is their biggest rivals and all.  But I think a strong Mexican side is good for all of CONCACAF, so I hope they do well.

#369 Re: The Garden » 2013 Confederations Cup » 638 weeks ago

The Brazilian press has been heaping praise upon Spain's "scandalous" performance in the Confederations Cup match against Uruguay. "Nobody plays like Spain", Luiz Augusto Simon said in 'UOL Esporte', comparing Vicente del Bosque's side to "a bullfighter who's in no rush to kill the bull".
"Spain wins when and how it likes. Winning in its own style, without turning its back on something so many people around the world forgot about", he added in obvious reference to the "jogo bonito" (the beautiful game) that has frequently been used to describe the style of football played by the five-times World Cup winners.
In the same paper, Analyst Luiz Ceará was left amazed by the display put on by Andrés Iniesta and company in Recife: "Spain took ownership of the ball and swept Uruguay aside 2-1, completely controlling the game. Passing, passing, passing. This Spain side is scandalous".
Columnist Antero Greco, from 'O Estado de Sao Paulo', said that the "Celeste" players spent most of the night "watching the ball moving between the feet of the team that has won the last two European Championships and the most recent World Cup".
"As usual, Spain knocked its opponent onto the ropes early and enjoyed continuous possession with a tiki-taka passing style", said Greco, who thinks that: "Unless there’s a monumental surprise, which can happen in football, Spain will reach the final".

#370 Re: The Sunset Strip » Lemmy IS god. » 639 weeks ago

Former Oasis frontman Liam Gallagher swore off his standard loudmouth behaviour when he sat down on a plane and realised Lemmy was on board too.

He decided to keep quiet in case he landed in trouble with the Motorhead icon – but Lemmy had different ideas.

Gallagher tells GQ: "I met Lemmy once on a plane. I thought, 'I'm not going to drink on this flight – I'm going to wind my neck in.' Can I get a water please?

"Next minute a pair of cowboy boots get put down beside me. He looked at me and said, 'What the fuck are you doing drinking water?'"

Meanwhile, Lemmy has admitted his estimate of having slept with 1000 women is probably too low – but even though he's doubled the figure he insists it's "not that impressive."

"It's probably more like 2000 now," he says. "That might seem like a lot; but I've never been married and I've been fucking women since I was 16. That's less than one a week."

http://m.classicrockmagazine.com/news/m … his-drink/

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