It goes back to Russia, because the media is on a witch hunt, and they are going to stretch that Russian sweater as far as they can (despite no evidence).

Ever think Russia is thrown around as a boogieman because of Russophobic, Cold War racism directed at them that the media and deep state has regurgitated because all of us Americans, myself and you included, have been raised from birth to fear Russia, with no cause, just because?

Why is Russia such a 'dirty word'? It's like if someone defends Palastine, and questions Israel's stance, it immediately makes them racist and anti-semetic?

When Hilary Clinton was taking meetings with Putin in Russia on record... no one cares. But if Trump does it, stop the presses?

That's because they are playing on that indoctrination.

Why does any of this matter to common citizens such as you and me? All of this are the priorities and reality of the elite who want their priorities and world-view to be YOUR priorities and world-view. Who cares?

4tus is full of shit. Axl was just as close to DJ.

Slash, Richard, Duff, Melissa, Dizzy... whoever... can come up with ideas all they want.

Axl makes all decisions when it comes to music. When I hear it out of his mouth, I MIGHT believe something MIGHT happen.

In hindsight, I was buzzed that night, and pissed at Steven, and just let it fly. I was probably a bit more brutal on him than he deserved, but I don't really regret what I said. The older I get, the more and more black and white I would get (my mother is this way, and warned me about growing older, lol). There's truth, and that's universal. Now in Steven's case, and GNR's i'm sure there's multiple versions, ala Duff, but at the same time, Steven fixing this obstacle in his life is about his personal change, and not the band's.

He continues to complain about an immovable obstacle. I just don't get people who are this way.

It'd be like me walking outside in the Western U.S., and going "hey this whole area is beautiful. But you know what would make it look better? Moving the Rockies Mountains out of the way. From British Columbia to New Mexico. All of them. It'd look so much better, and we could built shit n' everything."

Does anybody think that's happening anytime... ever? No. Of course not. But instead of accepting that state of natural law, or whatever you'd call it, I'm gonna do every fucking interview with Mitch Lafon or Eddie Trunk or whoever and make that statement again and again and again, until I am using a spoon and a needle and contemplating suicide, because those mountain are still there, despite my complaints.

There are ways to fix Steve's problem, but he just flat out refuses to, and it gets irritating. He claims he's not upset, and it's all love, but it's not, because if it was, he would've never brought it up.

Eddie and others always claim, "I love Steve, 'cause he just tells it like it is". No he doesn't. He tells it like it is, from the perspective -- of SOME. The reality is GN'R are doing just fine with Frank, and guess what? I'd be the first to tell you Frank could be gone tomorrow, and Josh Freese back there or Brain or Eric Singer or Tommy Aldridge, and absolutely nothing would change. GN'R would still be playing shows successfully. That's the reality.

I was also the first person when they were barely getting back with 4,000 people in 20,000 venues that a reunion or retirement was inevitable. The DJ/Ron-version couldn't last forever without some form of change taking place, whether they become a theater act or start doing 80s dick cheese hair festivals.

Axl chose to reunite, and that decision let to this outcome. It's immovable. The timeline and continuity was altered from that. And Steve, who was there, is still saying the same stuff he was saying prior to the reunion. You have to deal with things how they ARE. Not how you WANT them to be.

But I digress

Nothing of what you said he means anything other than to you.

I actually agree with you in principle.

But it changes nothing. In 2000 fucking 17 Frank Ferrer is on drums. I don't give a damn that's he even there, because GN'R isn't about him. Axl, Slash & Duff universally made that decision. They also didn't mind fucking Izzy & Dizzy to do it. It is what it is. Izzy refused. Dizzy didn't. They made their choices.

GN'R is still out there touring while you and Steven sit at the house. It didn't change anything, and Steven screwed himself.

Now is Steven was like Paul D'Anno, or that original drummer (forget his name) for Iron Maiden, and they were just kicked out for no reason. I'd wholeheartedly agree with your assessment SG.

And if you ever agree with that limey moron John Divney again, i'll hunt you down and revoke your southerner card myself.

This.

This.

Oh God THIS.

Intercourse got it. Totally got it (as did others). It's amazing to me how people still think this is about who they prefer. The Steven Adler thing has become for GN'R, what the George Lynch thing is for Dokken. People drone on and on and on about Lynch and Don Dokken, and Dokken sucks and yada yada yada, when Jon Levin has been in the band for over a decade, plays better, and is never leaving. Move on. And yet Dokken's drummer, who talks shit (like Steven), stays in the band with Don, despite how "horrible" it is.

Please.

The day Slash & Duff walked in the door, and started rehearsing to rejoin GN'R, was the day W. Axl Rose gave his inaugural speech and started doing victory rallies across America.

As a matter of fact, he got 50,000 people a night, each city sucking his dick. Including Slash & Duff.

It's over. This is it. GN'R is a machine featuring Axl, Slash & Duff now. I state my point again... Steven should thank his lucky stars he was even allowed to be there. They played the exact same setlists without him -- and no -- one -- noticed.

MLB: The Show 17 is looking like the best baseball game ever made. Graphically it's finally made the trip to next gen console.

It only took four fuckin' years. If only 60 fps could be locked in.

This is all... by... design. Even Trump.

We have no control over our country. None. This is all a matrix. Fully convinced after this election.

The better question is what the future holds.