Oh man that's terrible. RIP.

Fair enough, I'm just saying I think the next batch really needs that kinda reworking all the more.

Like to me Atlas is the basis for a really good song - but it needs that something else that slash tends to bring - it feels to me like estranged without the guitars would be - still cool as fuck - but unfinished feeling even if these were due for release once upon a time. So i just hope Slash and co get in there and add stuff and move stuff around and complete them the way they always would have if the band had remained together all along.

Like I think about how Atlas would have evolved if it had been given to 1990 slash, back before all the trouble....that's kinda what I wanna see done to these.

State of Grace is another example...to me this song sounds insanely kickass...but it doesn't really have much in the way of guitars from memory....so I hope they do more than have slash play chorus chords over the ending etc.

I guess the example that bothers me is that middle layla section of hardschool - maybe it's just not to my taste - but it seemed to not have a point on the original or the remake to me. But then i do like the more zep style absurd we got. So there's hope.

I will be interested to hear what slash and duff added to the other songs.

On the other tracks it sounded like they just muted the old guitars and recorded slash over - which while cool isn't as much as I would like to see Slash do on some of the others. Like Atlas to me was the basis of a really cool song - but it's current structure without anything else it sort of went no-where - it was a bit like if we'd heard estranged with no slash guitars. What I'd like to see is slash add stuff to them properly...like add in a new guitar melody to go with the verses or a new bridge or something but I think the nature of this project (keeping most of the existing instruments etc) means we won't see too much of that.

Some of the songs like State of Grace I think will be great to have finished though.

I guess i'm saying i'm fine that they're doing CD2 songs, by wish is that it was more collaborative creatively - but from the last batch it was more like Slash and Duff took a finished song, and just covered the bass/guitar parts and left it otherwise.

Yeah i'm drawing a hard line at the killing of pets.

Like I'm ok with being asked to wear a mask at the shops because I see it as sort of a manners thing. Like it's not that hard for me to do and if it helps some more vulnerable person with cancer not get sick or whatever then that's kinda worth a minor inconvenience to me.

Like how as a kid you might just sneeze anywhere but then your parents teach you it's better etiquette to cover your mouth with your hands (or eventually elbow etc).

But yeah, I'm not going to be killing small animals thanks.

Not trying to have a go at you, but I just don't think it's a reasonable proposition to say that someone's words make them guilty of a crime - especially when they are attempting a style of humour.

We know Saget was a professional comedian, we know that he is both intelligent and articulate and well versed in the art of comedy. The idea of this joke is to disgust the listener before the punchline.

It's not therefore unreasonable to say he might have put some imagination, book research or thought into making the topic realistically grotesque without actually committing the crime in order to perfect his craft as a comedian.

I mean people write movies about wars, rape and all kinds of things without actually having done those things in the entertainment business.

I agree what he said is disgusting, but that's the point of it. Arguably it's a distasteful style of humour. But I don't think it's reasonable to deem him a perp based of it.