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#4011 Re: The Garden » Circuit City to close all stores » 904 weeks ago

"The Company" from the Alien films is on the horizon.

There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those *are* the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that . . . perfect world . . . in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

And that was 30 years ago.

#4012 Re: The Garden » Ex-cop charged with murder in Calif. shooting » 904 weeks ago

I can't wrap my mind around it. It definitely looks like an accident, but why the hell is the gun taken out in the first place? The only people acting out are the cops. There is simply no justification for it, not even understandable.

So even though it's an accident I sense something more here. The whole thing is just surreal.

#4013 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interesting Post-MyGnr 6/20/2008-Future albums Speculation » 904 weeks ago

I'm not complaining, just calling it what I think it is.

#4014 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interesting Post-MyGnr 6/20/2008-Future albums Speculation » 904 weeks ago

Come on dude, "interesting post at forum". It's an insider thread! I think we know how to spot em by now. 16

As to the thread subject, I just don't have the energy anymore.

#4015 Re: The Sunset Strip » "What Are You Listening To" Thread » 904 weeks ago

Stopped into a church
I passed along the way
Well, I got down on my knees
Got down on my knees
And I pretend to pray
I pretend to pray
You know the preacher likes the cold
Preacher likes the cold
He knows Im gonna stay
Knows Im gonna stay
California dreamin
California dreamin
On such a winters day

I forgot how good this song actually is. A timeless classic.

#4016 The Garden » Ex-cop charged with murder in Calif. shooting » 904 weeks ago

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OAKLAND, Calif. - A former transit police officer has been charged with murder for the fatal shooting of an unarmed and allegedly restrained black man in a racially charged case that has outraged residents and community leaders and sparked violent street protests.

Newly released court documents allege that Johannes Mehserle, who was charged Tuesday, shot 22-year-old Oscar Grant while Grant had his hands behind his back and another officer was kneeling on his neck.

Meanwhile, about 50 people were evacuated from their homes after Mehserle's parents found two suspicious packages on their porch Wednesday evening, the Napa County Sheriff's department said.

Bomb squad officers evacuated the neighborhood while trying to determine the contents of the packages. When authorities could not determine what was inside, they destroyed them. The residents were then allowed to return home.

Mehserle and his family have received death threats since the New Year's Day shooting.

Alameda County District Attorney Tom Orloff made the rare decision to file a murder charge against a police officer for an on-duty incident.

"At this point, what I feel the evidence indicates, is an unlawful killing done by an intentional act and from the evidence we have there's nothing that would mitigate that to something lower than a murder," Orloff said at a news conference. He said he would not speculate on whether the charge would end up being first-degree murder or second-degree murder.

Caught on camera

Witnesses said Grant was lying face down on a train platform at a station in Oakland when the 27-year-old white officer shot him in the back. Grant and others had been pulled off a train after reports of fighting, as New Year's Eve revelers were shuttling home after midnight.

Allegations that Grant's hands were behind his back and another officer was kneeling on him were contained in an Oakland police officer's request to issue an arrest warrant. It said it appeared from cell phone video that "Mehserle shot and killed Oscar Grant while Grant was restrained and unarmed."

The shooting, captured on cell phone cameras and widely viewed on the Internet, has inflamed long-running tensions in Oakland between law enforcement authorities and many African-American residents.

Violent protests

Protesters have taken to the streets calling for the prosecution of Mehserle, with one rally last week spiraling into violence that resulted in more than 100 arrests and damage to dozens of businesses.

More than a thousand demonstrators again gathered Wednesday, outside Oakland City Hall. They listened to preachers, community activists and others who urged a peaceful demonstration and demanded justice for Grant. Some protesters wore "Don't Shoot" signs on their backs and held signs that said, "Silence the Violence."

The protest was mostly peaceful before a small group went on a window-breaking rampage through downtown, smashing windows at several businesses and about 30 cars. Eighteen people were arrested, mostly for vandalism, Oakland police spokesman Jeff Thomason said.

Surrendered in Lake Tahoe

Mehserle surrendered without incident Tuesday at a family friend's house in an upscale neighborhood on the east shore of Lake Tahoe in Douglas County, Nevada, law enforcement officials said.

During a brief court appearance in Minden, Nevada, on Wednesday, he waived extradition and was returned to California to face charges. His lawyer, Christopher Miller, said his client had been in Nevada for a few days to get away from the pressures of what was happening in the Bay Area, and there was no effort to avoid arrest.

Mehserle could be arraigned as early as Thursday, Miller said.

Michael Rains, a former police officer who has represented cops as a lawyer since 1979, called such a charge "extremely rare."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28650273/

Video: http://slanttruth.com/2009/01/09/new-vi … arest-yet/

#4017 Re: The Sunset Strip » American Idol Season 8 » 904 weeks ago

Puzzled? Did you grow up in a cave? 16

#4018 Re: The Sunset Strip » Soundgarden » 904 weeks ago

A friend of mine knows a tour manager that was at the same gig as him not long ago (year, maybe two) and he was constantly going back for coke in between songs.

Could be bull, but I've learned to seldom trust rockstars themselves when they claim to finally be clean.

#4019 Re: The Garden » Child Services Strike Again » 904 weeks ago

I've been thinking the same, but I'm pretty sure the family's views are the main reason. Doubt they would have done that to a "normal" family receiving threats, but here it's more like "you're just a nazi anyway, fuck you".

#4020 Re: The Garden » Child Services Strike Again » 904 weeks ago

The authorities are supposed to deal in probables now?

Like the chief said, there's been no reports of any kind of abuse, and I'm thinking the reason he went out with this is because he feels the whole thing is fishy.

There are bad, stupid parents all across the board, but unless we're talking sexual or physical abuse there should be no reason for authorities to intervene in any way. We're talking about a family here. People who love each other. There should be some solid evidence to fuck with that. But they just go around snapping kids at will and then won't tell anyone why until later, and even then you're left with less legal rights than the common crack addict and rapist on trial.

Of course there could be actual abuse going on. We don't know all the details here for sure, but I don't know, this just doesn't strike me as a family that needs government supervision:

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Yes, my and your version of society have a vested interest in protecting our children, but that does not mean our actual societies are in fact always doing it. There's a lot of Machivellian benefits to having a fucked up populace, which probably explains why they increase in numbers each year.

And I don't need this article to make conclusions about slave states. That's just a fact as far as I'm concerned.

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