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#4231 Re: The Garden » so clinton is gonna win PA » 907 weeks ago
Obama's delegate lead isn't significant and he barely leads her in popular vote. Regardless, neither have the amount required to get the nomination. So the burden falls on the super delegates. Who's will should the SD's honor, those of their state, the general public or their own judgement? If we made the super delegates vote for whom won their state, guess what, Obama would be very unhappy. If they're supposed to vote on the popular vote, there is no point in having them at all and we would need a universal primary election so that those who benefit or are hindered by caucuses (how anyone can call a system the prevents a significant portion of people voting, egalitarian and democratic is beyond me) all get equal treatment. If the SDs are free to vote for whom they desire, then Obama supportters shouldn't bitch when they opt for Clinton who is only slightly behind but fairs much better in the states that matter in the election.
#4232 Re: The Garden » so clinton is gonna win PA » 907 weeks ago
I'm not saying polls are absolute. But you can't dismiss them because the Dems don't have a nominee yet. The polls place McCain against Obama and Clinton seperately, not all together. So I don't see your point.
Your appoint about Obama and Clinton not focusing on McCain rings true, but McCain hasn't been campaigning for 2 months. All attention has been on Hillary and Barack. Furthermore, McCain has a much larger record in both experience and running for office. Needless to say, Obama won't be able to get away with his ambiguity once he has a head to head with Obama.
But none of you have addressed my original point. Why Obama over Hillary if she is putperforming him in the states that matter? Obama can win the Idahos and South Carolinas every day that ends in "Y" during the primary, but he'll never win them in November. Clinton is winning the important states. So if you want a Democrat in office, why would you support the guy who can't even unite his own party in the battleground states, let alone the man who has 3x as many of his own people jumping ship to the other guy?
#4233 Re: The Garden » so clinton is gonna win PA » 907 weeks ago
McCain polls just as well if not better than Obama when it comes to the economy. You continually assert that Republicans are to blame for our economic woes and that the Dems can fix them, but you have not provided a reason why. You're entitled to your opinion, but McCain won't lose by default on the economy as he actually polls a little better on the issue than either Democrat.
Obama won't win the big states, McCain will. Obama may pull off a win in PA and MI, but that will be just keeping the status quo. He needs to win Florida or Ohio. Florida is McCain country, neither Hillary or Obama has any chance there. Ohio is what will decide the election as was the case in 2004. Obama's message does not resonate with Ohioans. The beating he's taken from Hillary is nothing compared to the beat down the GOP will give him. If all this stuff has come out by debating someone who doesn't want to annihilate her oppopnent, imagine what will come out when the Republicans start.
Don't believe me? Look at the battleground states and who has historically and who is polling the best there. All questions will be answered then.
#4234 Re: The Garden » so clinton is gonna win PA » 907 weeks ago
I don't get why you all think Obama should be the one to leave. Obama has the least chance of winning in the general election. He has yet to win any battleground states. Hillary has won them all. Doesn't that mean anything to you? Obama loses to McCain in almost every battleground state. It's not as if Obama has the nomination locked up either, he can't get the numbers to win. If and when they count Florida and Michigan (which they should) his numbers would be even smaller. Obama won in caucus states, which don't reflect the true numbers in normal voting. His numbers are inflated.
There was a time when I wanted Clinton to win cause I knew McCain could beat her up, but I'm not so sure now. However, I have no doubt that if Obama gets the nod McCain will win both Florida and Ohio and Obama will be forced to sing his songs of hope with Wright in the senate.
Hillary will not serve as a VP to Obama, she's going to take this to the convention because the Super Delegates are interested in winning the election, not rooting like it's a football game. Obama has not given any indication he can win in the general election. 3x as many Democrats jump to McCain than vice versa in a McCain to Obama matchup. That is a pretty big deal considering many of you were calling Obama the big uniter.
If Democrats want to win the election in 2008, they better nominate Clinton. I have a feeling this will happen anyway as the super delegates will go with what is best for the party and not some utopian message.
#4235 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 909 weeks ago
Although I don't believe a reunion will ever happen, if Bach did join VR, I think he would be the gate to a reunion actually happening a few years down the road.
#4236 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 909 weeks ago
I don't see anyone outside of an english speaking country being picked. If I had to put money down on who they'll go with, Bach would be my top pick. While I like Sebastian, his stage antics are a lil bit corny though I think it would be a great fit with VR. But didn't Bach burn some bridges after they chose Weiland. I recall somewhere where he trashed VR. With him having Axl's dick so far in his mouth, it may not even be an option for him to join VR.
#4237 Re: Guns N' Roses » I wish someone would leak the damn thing... » 909 weeks ago
There isn't some coded message going on here is there? You know, my PMs are always open.
#4238 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Sorum Offers His Insight » 910 weeks ago
I've felt this way for a long time. The only way a reunion will ever happen is if Izzy initiates it. He's the only one able to talk to both camps. Until Axl has delivered chinese democracy and anything else he's working on in that vault, no reunion will ever happen. Of all the members least likely to run back to Axl, I'd place Duff at the top of the list.
#4239 Re: The Garden » Post Your Pic Thread - Let's see what you look like! » 910 weeks ago
you guys are doing wonders for my esteem
#4240 Re: The Garden » Post Your Pic Thread - Let's see what you look like! » 910 weeks ago
yea, alot of kids cried. It was funny/