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#4262 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin Reunion Vids » 913 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:
Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:

and theys all been taken down by warner smile

Yeah, they are REALLY cracking down on this, and I would advise anyone here to not upload any of this footage if you have it. Might get a lawsuit or something. They are not fucking around. If you know someone you want to give clips to, send it through IM sharing or mail a disc out.

They are gonna release this show on DVD next year and they know its gonna be huge and they don't want downloading fucking with the sales.

Yeah. I for one will be getting it no doubt about it! I have BBC Sessions (CD), How The West Was Won (CD), The Song Remains The Same (DVD), and Led Zeppelin DVD.

#4263 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:

UYI has more monster tracks than Physical, although I'm not trying to downgrade the legacy of that album. An album regardless of its length that has Ten Years Gone and Kashmir on it is pure fucking gold regardless of any trash between the tracks.

The first part of the album is the best. There's only 6 tracks on part 1, and 5 of them are great songs:

"Custard Pie," "In My Time Of Dying," "Houses of the Holy," "Trampled Under Foot," and "Kashmir." The only song on that part of the album that I don't like is "The Rover." Those other 5 songs are awesome though. The second part of the album is definitely weaker. But there's a hell of a lot more filler on UYI. Those albums are both about 20 minutes too long. But they are an integral part of the GN'R catalogue no doubt, which is mostly due to them not putting out much of anything in their career.

#4264 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:
polluxlm wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:

I don't know. They were pretty much done being creative by the time he died. Physical Graffiti is a masterpiece, but everything after it was kind of "meh" with the exception of a few incredible songs like Achilles Last Stand.

I actually think Physical was the beginning of the end. Some great songs, but very uneven compared to HOTH. Still, great album, so is Presence. When we approach In Through The Out Door though...ouch. I don't even want to hear Coda.

But I guess 5 mint albums and 2 great ones is all you really need.

Yeah, Physical is like a low grade UYI. Some monster tracks sprinkled with a ton of filler.

I was never a big fan of Presence.

Only highlight from In Through The Out Door is In The Evening.

Coda is the worst album I have ever heard, and you are talking to someone who owns that early 90's Right Said Fred album. I remember buying Coda in 1990 as it was the only Zep album I either didn't own or never heard. I was shocked by the mediocrity of it.

Low grade UYI? I think it's the other way around. UYI is like a low grade Graffiti. There are plenty of "blah" songs on Graffiti, like UYI, but overall it's a hell of an album. The first 5 albums are way more consistent though for sure. Any time you do a double album you risk having filler. Even the Beatles are guilty of it. The White Album is my least favorite of their run of great albums (Rubber Soul through Abbey Road). I think The Wall is one of the only double albums that is pretty consistent, but that one even took me a long time to warm up to it.

#4265 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:

Oh I agree the tail end of their discography sucks big time. However, all great bands have low points. They were just in a funk. When they were playing their "A game", they were untouchable.

I could picture Zep coming back in 83 with something that would have blown minds. Plant kicked ass through most of the 80's, and he did it with just bland cookie cutter safe rock. Throw Bonham, Page, and Jones into the mix, and something great would have come of it.

Only song Plant did in the 80's even coming close to Zep territory is Big Log, and Zep could have turned that into something amazing.

Plant's 93 album Fate of Nations was pretty damn good.

Yeah to be fair to Zep, they had a lot of bad shit go down in the mid to late 70's. Plant in particular had two major obstacles in his life. He and his wife almost died in a car accident in 1975. He recorded Presence while he was still in a wheelchair after the accident. In 1977, his son died of a stomach infection.

Plant told one interviewer, "I had a couple of bad knocks which, no matter what happens, will always have taken their toll on me. I know that my kind of vision, or the carefree element I had, disappeared instantly when I had my automobile accident in 1975. That kind of ramshackled "I'll take the world now" attitude was completely gone."

#4266 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:

One strike against Zeppelin is the fact some of their tracks are just so fucking epic that they could never do them justice, regardless of what decade they perform the songs live.

Tragic that Bonham died when he did. Zep could have pulled some interesting shit out of their hats with what was going on musically in the 80's.

I don't know. They were pretty much done being creative by the time he died. Physical Graffiti is a masterpiece, but everything after it was kind of "meh" with the exception of a few incredible songs like Achilles Last Stand.

#4267 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:
Pride&Glory wrote:

That's just retarded. Its Led fucking Zeppelin. And judging by the boots those "old farts" can still rock the fuck out.

i've never been a huge Zeppelin fan tho dude.   they had some good songs and all, but I think it would have been better left back in the 70s.

My point. I mean, I like Zep and all, but I'm not ready to fall all over myself over this show. It sounded average at best to me. That's my opinion. I realize it's really cool to just jump on the bandwagon and say the show was amazing, but all the footage I've seen makes me the otherwise for myself.

Have you ever seen some of the footage of Zeppelin even in their prime? They were NEVER the most flawless live performers. Page was on heroine most of the time and consequently his playing typically sucked compared to the times when he actually was sober or in the studio. However, they created a kickass energy at all of their shows and that is why a lot of people loved to go see them. If you've ever seen the movie The Song Remains The Same, you'll know what I'm talking about when I say that even at their peak they were never perfect performers. I personally thought they kicked ass the other day. Jimmy at 63 and sober > Jimmy at 30 and fucked up on drugs.

#4268 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:
russtcb wrote:

All of this sounds OK at best to me.

Yet you love Angel Down. 16

I've never said I love Angel Down. I happen to like the album, but I wouldn't say I love it. Besides what has Sebastian Bach's new album got to do with songs being sung way lower then their recorded?

Nothing really other than the fact that Sebastian Bach is a hack compared to Zeppelin.

#4269 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

All of this sounds OK at best to me.

Yet you love Angel Down. 16

#4270 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 913 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

I'm trying out Stairway on YouTube right now and I'm not overly impressed.

I'm watching it. Started off a little shaky but Jimmy is kicking ass on the solo right now. Even back in their heyday, that 12 string guitar was a compromise. It's not the guitar he used to record the song (he used two) so the early parts sound a bit off compared to the studio version, but that guitar gave him the flexibility to get a semi-acoustic sound on the early parts and then go crazy on the solo later on.

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