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#421 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 229 weeks ago

Armed troops going door to door?

I don't mean this rudely but what on earth are you guys talking about?

There's a pandemic, the government invested billions in vaccines and treatments to keep society rolling on enough that we don't crash the health system into collapse, the corporations made a buck doing that, the rich stay rich, small guys like us get less sick than we would have. A handful of people have adverse outcomes but less people than would have got sick with no treatments.

Why make it into anything more than that?

#422 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 230 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

The virus came from the lab.

Dumb ass..prove it or shut the fuck up

I look at this another way:

Viruses might mutate and jump species anywhere in the world but it happened there.

If the issue is wet-markets etc causing dangerous animal scenarios then that must happen all across china but yet it happened there.

There are 59 level 4 bio-pathagen labs in the world - and one of them is there.

The lab that is there happens to specialise in bat corona viruses.

The lab that is there has a previous history of safety trouble.

So given if it happened in nature it could happen anywhere in china or indeed the entire world, it seems awfully strange that it happened right there.

The WHO seems to think that's a conspiracy, but to my mind what requires crazier things to be true? What are the odds?

Of course that doesn't mean it was intentional, accidents happen. Or maybe it's just the best coincidence of all time.

#423 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 230 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

So why didn't we turn society into a concentration camp before? Why didn't you get yearly shots for the flu? Throw families on the street because they refused?

That's what is going on now, for a virus that is the equivalent of the flu.

Personally I have had yearly shots since 2000 but I take your point generally.

I think the difference is because this was new there was no immunity.

Like with the flu, there's lots of strains around and in any year you had some people walking around who still had anti-bodies from getting a similar strain and recovering in previous years, you had people going around who have had a shot. That combined with the infectiousness level of the flu and the specifics of when symptoms turn up manages to keep infections at a manageable level.

When we had lockdowns that wasn't going to be the case with rona. There was no natural immunity yet. There was no vaccine yet. It was a more infectious disease. We didn't know a lot about it - but it looked like basically almost anyone who came into contact with it was going to catch it.

That starts a question...like even if 1% of people go to the hospital and even if most of them recover...how many hosptial beds do we have open at once? How long before people have other car accidents and other issues and they cant get a doctor cos everyone is busy. How long till everyone has to call in sick at work on the same day? It's the answers to the questions like that which caused the goverment to do lockdowns etc.

However it's a pet-hat of mine that people say "just the flu" because the flu can kill you anyway, but in addition to that, this disease is far worse than the flu, the rates of stuff like 'long covid' and similar seem to indicate that.

#424 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 230 weeks ago

People keep saying "Just The Flu"....

In 2018 my best mate who is my age (40s) caught the flu.

It went to his heart.

It left him with 14% heart function. He fucking needs like an hour to put on a shirt and walk across the room now.

Cardiologist says that his heart can not be fixed and the risk of him dying increases 10% for every year he lives with this condition. You don't have to be a maths guy to realise this means he has a 100% chance of being dead by 2028. So here I am walking into 2022 and like the absolute best case is that he has 6 years left...and that's if he turns out to be amongst the best and strongest.

I was at the hospital when this happened going like "what in the utter fuck...since when does this happen?" like i thought the flu was no big deal...but the doctors assured me that actually this happens quite a lot and it's just that people don't tend to talk about it lots.

So in conclusion - FUCK anything that is like the flu and FUCK the idea that anything is just a flu.

It's not unusual for a taste of the flu to significantly fuck up your life.

#425 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box set coming 2022 » 230 weeks ago

I'm down for anything from the whole UYI period. There was still good shit going on in the gilby era too. Axl and slash were such powerhouses back then it was insane.

#426 Re: The Sunset Strip » Ghostbusters: Afterlife » 233 weeks ago

Not coming out in Australia until january...so I'll have to wait.

Comparison to Bill and Ted 3 has me worried though, I love Bill and Ted 1 and 2 deeply and REALLY wanted to get into 3 but it just didn't have the spirit or feel to me of the originals at all. Like i'm not a screenwriter but in heaps of scenes I was just watching thinking about ways in which the characters didn't seem like the characters. That's not a good sign. lol.

Anyways...I'm still crossing my fingers for this, I could use some ghostbusters fun.

#427 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Batman » 234 weeks ago

The new one looks like a hybrid to me.

Like

Burton = Gothic surrealism / spooky vibe
Nolan = Realism
Snyder = angry batman

This kinda looks like a batman year one take - the "not for kids" vibe is a little bit burton (though I still miss the rest of that look), the realism of this batmobile is more real worldly like Nolan and there seems to be touch of the psycho batman....

I dunno, I don't think it's the movie I wanted them to make, especially that realistic batmobile...but I'll watch it cos it does look pretty well done.

But yeah - the flash movie has a lot of interest to me. I nerded up hard for even the hint of the 89 batmobile in the teaser trailer.

#428 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 236 weeks ago

I was thinking this morning, that if they drop a song or two with some regularity, like if this happens again during next years tour, then another little morsel the year after or whatever.

That would be fun in it's own way. It would give us a reason to get involved each tour to hear the live versions of the new songs. And each time the song would be fresh.

In a way that would be more entertaining over the next decade than them dropping 15 songs now and then the new info in 9 years time is a live version of track 5 of the CD we got this week etc.

I mean i know most prefer the experience of a whole feast of new stuff at once, but given GNR seems to run on a 15-20 year retool time - at least this way we have something to do in the wait times.

#430 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 237 weeks ago

Yeah i think it does mean that.

I think it means for the foreseeable future releases will consist of older demos reworked by Slash and Duff, like hardskool and absurd are.

Given there's still some good melodies left that we've heard - perhaps, state of grace etc. I don't think it's really all that bad. Especially if you consider there might be others that didn't happen to leak.

In some ways I prefer it. Like 1999 Axl had a fire too him. He was emotional about the breakups and various other goings on that would lead to powerful peformances ala "There Was A Time". We've seen how Slash can revitalise some of this stuff.

Not that I would reject a current album either, but there's an argument to say maybe 2000 era problematic Axl had more to say artistically than the guys do now as multi-millionares with the world conquered.

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