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#4531 Re: The Garden » Vatican lists "new deadly sins" » 946 weeks ago

Pride&Glory wrote:

"They are partially responsible for the AIDS epidemic through their disapproval of condoms. "

Haha this made me laugh. No AIDS is the result of junkies and people who do not get tested and people who dont check with their partner if they are tested. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Catholic church frown against sex before marriage anyway.

30-40 million people have AIDS in Africa, and that's the only place you can call it an epidemic. AIDS is not a big problem in the rest of the world. The Church is still very influential  down there, but instead of really helping them, they tell them to 'believe', 'refrain' and all that nonsense.

We can go a little further with it too. AIDS is believed to be a man made disease, and one of the groups spreading it was the church' vaccination programs.

#4532 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 946 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:

I know, I was just making a joke. But everyone missed the Dr Pepper reference sad

Ah, the commercial? We don't have any of those over here.

#4533 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 946 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Dr. Pepper should be able to lie better than that 16

Why? Whats the worst that could happen?

What I meant was "I see it, but I don't believe it."

Either Axl knew about it beforehand, or the record company knew about it with Axls permission (do what you want when it comes to promotion kinda thing).

This is not some 'stunt' by Dr. Pepper, but of course, the whole campaign depends on it appearing that way.

Also, it makes perfect sense. If the record was handed in some time ago this is exactly the type of promotion fitting for an album 15 years in the making.

#4534 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 946 weeks ago

Dr. Pepper should be able to lie better than that 16

#4535 Re: The Sunset Strip » The NINE INCH NAILS Thread » 946 weeks ago

Just Like You Imagined might be my favorite NIN song. One of the coolest guitar melodies ever.

TDS is a tighter album, but the sheer mass and diversity of Fragile makes it my favorite album.

#4537 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 946 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive wrote:

But how can you definitely be sure that CD will be out this year if GNR had nothing to do with what DR is doing.   If it's true, they are calling it a Challenge for a reason.

I think the assessment is that for Dr. Pepper to do something like this GN'R would have to be involved. With all the lawsuits today I don't think a big company would involve a third party in anything without an agreement.

#4539 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 946 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

except that a can of DrP prolly only costs them a dime to make

so 3,000,000 x $0.10 = $300,000 whoop-dee-doo for a huge company...remember tacobell gave out free tacos in the world series to everyone in america a couple years ago? same thing really


Axl can still throw this back on the record label anyway..."well i wanted it out but the label didnt agree with me...we are still in negotiations" other than a slight media buzz we are in the same situation as yesterday regarding CD imo

It wouldn't be a big thing for Dr. Pepper, but it could end up being a big thing for Axl. His response pretty much confirms that he's in on it.

Of course, that doesn't mean it'll happen, but at least something's going on.

#4540 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 946 weeks ago

Good post from Kbear at mygnr:

I can't believe that everyone seems to think GN'R aren't in on this.

Of course Dr. Pepper says GN'R isn't involved and of course GN'R says they aren't involved. The whole promotion is based on the idea that this is a challenge to Axl to release the album and that there isn't anything in it for Mr. Rose other than seeing Dr. Pepper give everyone a free drink. If they admit Axl is involved then you know it's promotion and you know the album is coming. The challenge is over before it even began.

Let's pretend Axl isn't in on it. Think what happens if the album doesn't come out. Dr. Pepper will run with this campaign probably all year (or at least into the fall). It will make people interested in the band and get their hopes up. Then no album. Axl ends up looking bad, Dr. Pepper ends up looking bad, the whole thing just has no payoff. No...if Axl wasn't in on this he wouldn't have issued his release. He'd have issued Cadbury/Schwepps a legal document instead, because he'd be pissed at how this would end up making him look.

And if the album does come out then Dr. Pepper is on the hook for the cost of the free drinks. Yes they can estimate it and yes it won't be as high as 300 million x $0.80 but it will still be an unquantified liability. Why would they open themselves up to this potential hit if they didn't have some sort of payoff negotiated with GN'R? Answer: they wouldn't. They will do something with GN'R, like be the sole drink provider on the tour or something of that nature. Companies don't just open themselves up to uncertain liability, and for what? A cheap bit of media attention for a day or two before the likely event that Axl shoots them down through his lawyers?

I think this might be it.

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