I agree with you Buzz in that from what I can tell of the situation in the US the horse has already bolted. There are so many guns out there that shutting the gate on them won't do a damn thing in the short term.  However, if you do it now, have a gun buy back (like they did in Oz) coupled with a heap of other things including change the attitude towards owning guns, perhaps more $$'s for mental health, make the Gen Y fuckers more responsible and less pandered too by the PC brigade etc etc, maybe after one or two generations you will start to see an impact.

Personally I don't think gun restrictions will ever stop the crazy type that wants to take out as many people as possible.  Maybe restrictions will stop 10-20% just guessing, but most of these fuckers will still get the guns by illegal means if they want and are motivated enough.  We still see shootings here in Oz coz the US doesn't have a monopoly on crazy fucked up people.  Although we don't see the same number relative to our population size that the US has.

However, what I do think the gun restrictions here has done is stop a lot more of the one on one gun deaths.  You know the sort where there is a domestic dispute and someone grabs there gun and kills the other person.  Or an altercation on the street coz someone looked at somebody funny so they shot them.  Or a robbery that went wrong and someone got shot.  We don't see nearly as many of these I believe because there just isn't the availability of guns.  These incidents don't occur in the main with guns anywhere near as frequently as they would if guns were more freely available.  I think this is where guns controls will have the biggest impact, not so much on mass shootings.

But again because the USA is already flooded with guns and a gun mentality if changes are made there now bringing in restrictions, it will only be done with the long long term future in mind, because in the short term it will make fuck all difference that I can see.  But if you want to make a change for future generations then I certainly don't see arming more people as the answer. 

If you arm the school teachers, then the massacres will move on to movie theatres, or local sports grounds or other soft target work places.  They won't stop and you then end up with yet more guns out there, more people armed and then more of those other type of guns deaths - the one on one types I spoke of.

Yep Merry Christmas to all.  Going to be a hot one here (like always) 39 Degrees Celsius about 102 F.  I gotta go and have a white christmas one year!!!

Newcastle and no Adelaide, kinda strange?

Gibbo?

Not bad on first listen, not a lot of variation in his playing throughout but still solid.