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#461 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 245 weeks ago
I sure as shit didn't think the Pats would drop Newton.
#462 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 246 weeks ago
We just did another drone strike. Taliban gave us Intel and we hit them while in their truck heading to the airport.
Now that's some accurate and timely Intel....
The Taliban has just as much a reason if not more so to eradicate ISIS-K. They don’t want them turning Afghanistan into the next isis stronghold which would results in a repeat of our actions in Syria and Iraq since 2011.
#463 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:There are going to be a lot of hearings. And we may not have seen the worst yet.
Definitely, after the two impeachment hearings the House put a show on the past 2 years, Biden is definitely going to be impeached when the GOP gets the House next year. Except they'll have plenty of military officers as witnesses and not a chow thief whose now making the rounds on CNN.
What impeachable offense took place? We need to stop weaponizing impeachment. Better to let Biden and his admin be fully exposed.
Axl S, I am not trying to be pro Trump here, but even Biden says the reason there were no attacks for so long was Trump’s deal. Trump’s blame pretty much stops at “he made a deal to get out”. A deal that in principle most other people were fine with at the time. The vibe of America and our Military is different with Biden over Trump. Do you think we would have needed the Pineapple Express if Trump was president? The answer is no.
None. I’m not advocating impeachment or resignation. That was others. Simply opining that after Pelosi and her gang of mouth breathers impeached Trump twice, the bar has been set incredibly low. And that the GOP will use this in 2023 to score points. It was stupid when Democrats did it, and it’ll be stupid when Republicans do it. But after the hysterics of 25th amendment and impeachment the past 4 years, anyone who supported the former actions needs to remain quiet now.
#464 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
There are going to be a lot of hearings. And we may not have seen the worst yet.
Definitely, after the two impeachment hearings the House put a show on the past 2 years, Biden is definitely going to be impeached when the GOP gets the House next year. Except they'll have plenty of military officers as witnesses and not a chow thief whose now making the rounds on CNN.
#465 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 246 weeks ago
Paul Stanley tested positive and KISS had to cancel the show.
He had been spitting guitar picks out to the audience....
Yep, I was literally at the exit to get into the show when the radio station made the announcement. Facebook was saying heart attack, so I was very relieved to hear COVID.
#466 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
BREAKING @ABC — US special operations vets carried out daring mission to save Afghan allies — 500 smuggled into Kabul Airport on Weds night in complex, heart-pounding op by Americans determined not to leave comrades behind
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-spec … d=79670236
I don't know how I feel about this. Rogue Black Ops isn't something I think I can get behind. I understand their passion and desire to do something the current Administration is incapable of doing, but non-active military operating without SecDef approval sets a very, very bad precedent.
#467 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Was there a way of getting out of Afghanistan without negotiating with the Taliban? There's no way Trump came up with that in his own, so it had to be the generals. This means they've known for a while the country would inevitably fall.
I do think it's funny that both sides blame the other while taking credit for it. You can't say Trump was wrong for making a deal, then praise Biden for having the guts to follow through with said deal and end the war. There's a lot of people talking out of both sides of their mouths.
Agreed completely. No way to leave without negotiating. It's what was negotiated that is the problem.
Deal was shit and negotiated for sake of optics. Biden picks it up and follows through on it for exact same reason. Then on top of that he makes a hash of the evac.
Both sides of the divide seem to be pointing fingers at each other. There's plenty of blame for all camps in IMO.
You've said this twice now. How is anyone else responsible for the manner the US had left Afghanistan over the past 8 months, specifically the midnight withdrawal from Bagram? Please explain it, because it's only been a talking point Biden stutters through after he claims culpability. So I'd really like your explanation on how anyone but Biden has any ownership in the manner the US withdrawal without any plan.
I'm really interested in how any administration or nation besides the US under Biden has any culpability in this botched withdrawal. If you're going to say it, please expand on how the nightmare at Kabul and citizens left in the nation is on anyone but Biden. I know it'll be hard for NATO allies to recognize they're solely dependent on the US and lack any real force projection, otherwise your leaders would have gotten your people out quicker too. But quit trying to both sides it. Joe Biden was solely responsible for drafting the withdrawal plan and timeline, he ignored everything the Trump administration agreed on.
This isn't love for Trump. This is about keeping the topic on scope of the fiasco in Afghanistan and not projections and fantasies of what would be different in an alternate reality.
#468 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
Oh my god. I went to the Captain's Course with the guy with a mustache in the photo on top.
#469 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
If I'm hearing about this from my sources, it'll be in the news soon enough. But take it with a grain of salt and all that. Apparently Army Logisticians have available on the Classified Army Network the actual movement and transportation plan to evacuate Afghanistan and equipment orderly, and repeatedly briefed the concerns of a narrower timeline should a decision to act and begin implementation be delayed. Senior Leaders acknowledged the situation and explained they were waiting for approval from Defense and State, but nothing ever came of it. This went on for months early in the year and quickly became a hushed concern because badmouthing any politician, let alone the President is a huge no no in the military, especially among senior leaders. When August 31st became "the day" at senior levels, everyone realized the normal evacuation plan was impossible, and so a "hurry up and make it happen" atmosphere became the operating tempo. Defense Department officials had directives from the President, so everything was urgent which is why they pulled out in the dead of night at Bagram - officials on the ground knew they had to leave the area suddenly, so only the most important shit was snatched. Biden officials didn't want the imagery of the US withdrawal from Bagram, as that would be a sign of defeat.
From that moment, the fall of Kabul was evident, so it became a rush job to get everyone out as quickly as possible, but there were sides who realized we'd need some emergency response force, so the paltry 1k troops were left in case crisis mode happened. We all know the rest from the news coverage the past 10 days or so. But this is why at least 12 Americans are dead today. The Army had a plan to evacuate Afghanistan orderly and properly for over a year, and anytime they asked to start movement on it, it was held up due to politics. So because Dementia Joe's handlers didn't want the imagery and narrative to be "US Defeated in Afghanistan", they tried to sneak out in the dead of night without planning for it, and everything and all the chaos transpired from there.
So if you want to talk to me about the value of an American citizen's life and how abuse of power warrants riots and protests across the nation, if you want to talk to me about staged photo operations that harm American's civil liberties, and you want to talk to me about "America's Standing on the World Stage", start with the senile old fuck who just killed 12 Americans because he handicapped an orderly withdrawal to look good for the press and find the perfect execution a withdrawal that looked good for the media.
#470 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 246 weeks ago
Death count of American servicemen is now up to 10. The loss of American Marines and Soldiers for a stupid fucking man angers me greatly, so I'm taking a break from posting here until I can calm down.
