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#4761 Re: The Garden » Former Italian President: "911 was an inside job" » 917 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

For those saying that people need to do more research before posting, I think that doing "research" from sources that have an agenda is the same as not doing reseach at all.  You want to believe there was a conspiracy and they are spoonfeeding information to you through the only media they can use to post their propaganda.  I said it before and I'll say it again: if there was a conspiracy, we would already know about it.  Too many people involved for this to remain a secret.  These sites ask all these questions, but for some reason they never actually answer them.  They provide no proof, no evidence.  They just plant these seeds that people want to believe and let them run with it.  Anytime they get shot down, they claim "what would you expect the gov't to say" or some bullshit like that.

Generalization. Proof is proof, agenda or not.

Something to think about: Bush took office in 2001 after the 2000 election (I think, not going back to research the exact dates).  An operation such as 9/11 would have taken a ton of planning to pull off, so the planning must have gone back to the Clinton era.  Do you really believe that Clinton's group planned something like this and got a whole new executive branch to not only agree to it, but have EVERYBODY agree to keep it quiet?  The Democrats and Republicans can't agree on anything but somehow agreed on something that huge?  I don't think so.

Well, this article isn't claiming Bush did it. Or any other politician for that matter.


Why would Bin Laden go along with it?

He could have a million reasons. I really don't care. All I know is that the man has a past working with the CIA, the present establishment still got close business ties to his family and at least one of the videos of him is a fake.

Why would the "liberal" media cover it up?

For one, they are all pretty much owned by the same 5 companies. And second, like you say, reporting something like this would be outrageous. 

Why would the CIA, which you all suggest is behind it, just last week say Iran has abandoened its nuke program if they want to install Western governments in the Mideast? Iraq was the least important target. Afghanistan doesn't matter.

CIA as a whole isn't behind it, naturally. But there are elements within the agency who do these types of operations all the time. International politics is a mess, and I'd hardly claim to understand them all. But I know a lie when I see one, and the government is full of them.

#4762 Re: The Garden » Former Italian President: "911 was an inside job" » 917 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Also, is this article even legitimate or is it another piece of trash like the world weekly news?  I have a feeling this is some obscure paper trying to get attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corriere_della_Sera

As for the other colorful remarks in this thread, what about those red flags that is the foundation for all of this 'movement'?

Building 7, why did it collapse? No plane hit it. How does random fires get a building to collapse, for the first time in history, and even make that collapse symmetric? Demoliton firms spend months planning it, some can't even do it.

The 911 Commission report doesn't even mention the building.

Why are testimony describing additional explosive charges left out of the report?

Why can't the group assigned to explain the collapse (NIST) explain the collapse?

Why isn't the transfer of 100.000$ to Mohammed Atta on the day of 911 from the former head of Pakistani Intelligence mentioned in the report? In fact, how can the commission deem who financed the operation irrelevant? Does it not matter who paid for 911?

Why were 2 Mossad agents spotted celebrating the attacks with a video camera in Arab clothing? They were consequently apprehended by the FBI, but released shortly thereafter with no further explanation from the authorities.

Why did the government fail to act when numerous countries warned them beforehand?

How does 4 jetliners manage to penetrate the worlds most protected airspace?

Why was all the steel shipped as scrap to China before it could be analyzed?

Why does so many people in government believe that the official story is bullshit? Are all these people crazy?

Or perhaps I should simply ask: If nothing at all fuzzy happened in connection to this event, why do so massive amounts of people believe it did?

#4763 Re: The Garden » How Famous Is Your Posting...? » 917 weeks ago

I made the paper once with this comment: "believing cd will be released in 2006 is believing in Santa Claus".

#4764 The Garden » Former Italian President: "911 was an inside job" » 917 weeks ago

polluxlm
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Former President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, made a statement last week in an article in one of the main newspapers in the country, Corriere Della Sera. He said 911 was an inside job performed by the CIA and the Mossad. This was well known in the intelligence community according to Cossiga.

It is claimed that Bin Laden admitted to the attacks on 911 and that he was the brain behind the operation...All the intelligence communities in America and Europe knew very well that these horrific acts was planned and acted out by the CIA and the Mossad - with help from the Zionistic establishment - to lay blame on the arabic people and install western power in the middle east.

Article (in Italian) http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_nove … c53b.shtml

This article is being heavily censored over here.

#4765 Re: The Garden » The Right to Bear Arms » 917 weeks ago

You have all heard it before, I'll say it again: Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

It may be cliche but it is still the truth.

Like has been said, it is a constitutional right so that the people can protect themselves against the government when the shit hits the fan. You may say that scenario is ludicrous today, but I've read enough history to know that the government, any government, will suppress it's population if able to.

Then again, we are experiencing an escalating phenomenon, so what to do? I can't say for sure, but what I do know is that banning something never works.

#4766 Re: The Garden » 9/11 » 917 weeks ago

The case of 911 is really quite obvious. The only thing preventing most people from believing it is merely conditioning.

In fact, even the official story qualifies as an inside job since there are numerous ties to our own intelligence and military communities.

On the surface it may look like a messy coverup, but in my mind this whole operation is one of the most insidious and ingenious events ever perpetuated.

But the truth will come out, we can already see the writing on the wall in the mass media. And this is what bothers me. They seemingly want the truth to come out, so to what end?

I fear you americans will have to take action very soon.

#4767 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy With Patti Hood....? » 918 weeks ago

I'd say this gains some credibility for the 'more cowbell' rumor.

#4768 Re: The Sunset Strip » Jackson Five to reunite » 918 weeks ago

This is gonna be the freakshow of the decade.

#4769 Re: Guns N' Roses » Check out this new rumor » 918 weeks ago

I'm not convinced. My money's on the fat kid who heard C.D. in Axl's car.

#4770 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy given a Feb. 12 release date on Amazon UK » 918 weeks ago

My crystal ball says "not yet".

Does amazon have a crystal ball?

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