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#481 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 759 weeks ago

war
Intercourse wrote:

Plus, don't forget that VR's CB way outsold GNR's CD straight out the gate so if anything there was more love for VR out there back in the day than there was for Axl's experiment.

madagas wrote:

VR was more of a supergroup. I really see no comparison to Axl's situation.

exactly.

they also released their first cd when the iron was hot, setting the stage for a second release, neither of which was done so off the beaten path that best buy had become when chinese was released.

dl'n had become much more significant when chinese was released as well.

#482 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 759 weeks ago

war

i havent heard one person say cd sold as much as i was hoping it would.

cd failed for about 8 or 9 reasons. why some of you want to turn a blind eye to those reasons or think it comes down to one reason is beyond me.

if they do things differently for cd2 it'll do as well as cd1 if not better.

irregardless, it would make sense financially for the label to release an album that they've already spent thousands (maybe millions) of dollars on and can recoup those costs and turn a minimum of a small profit from.

#483 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 759 weeks ago

war
buzzsaw wrote:

If the music is so strong, why did it die after 2 weeks of strong sales? 

Why did the free streams drop dramatically track by track?

because it was a bb exclusive - everyone that bought it had it on their radar leading up to the releaese. very few impulse buys after that since nobody shops at bb, much less for cd's.

because its a mathematical fact that with each song a person is more likely to stop listening. very few people would listen to all 14 tracks. most dont have time for that, especially middle aged people that are the target market.

#484 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 759 weeks ago

war

while bands like acdc decided to let big ass wal mart carry them to success,
cd was sold as an exclusive to a company bordering on bankrupcy.
best buy was hoping the big ass gnr brand name would carry them.

we all know it sold less then expected.

as far as promo....i know i know - cd was "the most anticipated album of all time"

it was also the longest anticipated album of all time.......

when it takes almost a decade to release an album since its acknowledgement and then it is released with last minute/half assed promo and production, exclusively to slow ass store........you get the point

gnr was also a freakshow from '01 to '08, with a disastrous comeback tour

bottom line is it still managed to sell 2-4 million world wide (what are the exact numbers now?) with all of those things stacked against its success

99.9 percent of label supported artistst dont even go gold

if cd 2 sells half of what cd sold then the label is still interested.

an underachieving gnr still makes everyone money.

and i wouldnt be stunned if it surpassed cd.

gnr is slowly rebuilding its credibility with each successful tour since the release and has a strong following.

they can release music whenever they have music to release.

#485 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 759 weeks ago

war

i actually see a bit of gnr influence in their better shit.

#486 Re: Guns N' Roses » FAKE - Axl announces new GNR album in 2012? » 759 weeks ago

war
Saikin wrote:
war wrote:

hmmmm

seems like there would have been more shit written if it were hacked and the hacker would have been more careful not to make a grammatical error.

Drunk Axl = Problem solved.

my guess as well

bastard

#487 Re: Guns N' Roses » FAKE - Axl announces new GNR album in 2012? » 759 weeks ago

war

maybe he meant record for the least amount of people at a gnr concert.

#488 Re: Guns N' Roses » FAKE - Axl announces new GNR album in 2012? » 759 weeks ago

war

hmmmm

seems like there would have been more shit written if it were hacked and the hacker would have been more careful not to make a grammatical error.

#489 Re: Guns N' Roses » Could the tide be turning » 759 weeks ago

war

thats what i would say.

axl does jack shit musically and lives like a hermit.

then he tours with a bunch of imposters(as far as 99 percent r concerned)

and still does well.

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