Is that a lie or a change of plan though? a lot of things changed between when he said that and when the album was released. If bucket had remained with the band, and dynamics had worked better, they may have recorded countless new songs and that stuff may have been B sides. But it didn't go that way.

DJ's don't count as critics.

Most DJ's were complete assholes about the album, and loved every minute intentionally not playing the single, even when requested.

That's what happens in that business, when you refuse interviews, and refuse to promote your own music.

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Do you really think that the general public didn't know CD was released?  Really?  For your sake, I hope not.  It made the news even if it was as the butt of a joke, so people knew it was out there.  If you don't think that people sought out reviews to see if it was any good, you're also kidding yourself.  I would suspect the RS review was likely the most popular one and one of the most positive ones.

You can keep going on this if you want, but it's not going to work in your favor.

Quoting yourself I see.  That's appropriate since you say the same things over and over anyways.

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faldor wrote:

Buzzsaw those reviews certainly DO exist.  I could send a bunch of links your way if you want.  My point is, who outside of these forums are going to read a positive review from various internet sites?  I certainly don't go around searching for reviews of other bands CD's, I can't imagine others would.  I brought up "Rolling Stone" because that's a pretty major music magazine and they gave CD 5 stars.  Your average music fan might come across that one.  But I doubt the average Joe would've done the research to find there were PLENTY of positive reviews out there.  They'd rather listen to the Dick and Harry Morning Zoo and believe whatever they say.  They make fun of Axl and refuse to play the new songs because "they suck", and the listeners buy into it.

OK - so people were told to like it and they didn't.  So that squashes the theory tha it failed because people were not told to like it.

The music isn't that good.  That doesn't mean everyone hates it and I'm glad you love it, but the music just isn't that good.  No amount of PR by Axl can overcome that.

Uh, no that's not what I said at all.  Where do you come to that conclusion?  The positive reviews were out there for people to see.  That doesn't mean the people actively searched for them.  Again, I can't remember the last time I read a review for another CD.  I don't expect people to scour the internet for CD reviews.  The reviews weren't directly e-mailed to people, so how you come to the conclusion that they did read them and "were told to like it" is beyond me.