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#501 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago

I've never seen so many innocent people work so tirelessly to prove that they didn't do anything.

Who are we to believe? A pathological liar, who lies about almost everything, regardless of how inane? Or that there is deeply rooted corruption inside the FBI, who also happens to be investigating the pathological liar?

Trump has been slowly firing, and finding ways to push these people out. The other way is smearing them with the "bias" label, which is easy to do with conservatives who already feel the media (and whatever else, take your pick) is slanted against them. The memo will be the next move.

What's shocking is how far down the rabbit hole the GOP are willing to go with him. I know they want to retain power at all costs, but this crosses lines I never could have imagined.

It's all incredibly transparent, yet so many are willing to believe there is a vast conspiracy among the FBI, a historically conservative establishment, to oust Trump.

The memo will be like everything else they've put forth, a mere smidgen of cherry picked data the Trump sycophants want everybody else to see, while hiding everything else from public view as much as possible.

There were rumblings about Gates about to make a deal today. We'll have to see how that plays out. But it's clear that Mueller's investigation is getting much too close to the sun, while Trump and essentially the majority of the Republican party will do nearly anything to stop it.

Imagine for a moment, if four arrests were made during the Benghazi investigation, and as this happened Obama went 24/7 on the warpath against our intelligence communities and Fox News. All while firing those investigating Hillary and demanding loyalty from those who were part of that prosecution team. Are we sincerely to believe that any of these patriotic, all American conservatives would be fine with this?

Give.me.a.fucking.break.

#502 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Yea, no pattern there with Trump. It's clear he's been trying to obstruct.

That's why they've changed the argument to "Yea, but no collusion."

#503 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Things seem to be happening rapidly now. McCabe out. Trump refused to enact sanctions against Russia again. Kelly basically obstructing  the DOJ. The memo’s coming; whether true or not, if it suggests FBI abuse of wiretaps, Trump could fire Mueller. I’ve actually seen rumors he could do it tomorrow before the SOTU. Melania has had enough. Crazy.

We're inching closer to all hell breaking lose IMO.

But:

McCabe's early departure only made things worse for Trump. That's how stupid Trump is.

Just like if he fired Mueller, they'll be another FBI man right behind him with all Mueller's work and Mueller's team at his side. That's how stupid Trump is.

And:

It sure is funny how pro police and law enforcement the GOP was until Mueller started getting close to Putin's little puppet in the White House.

#504 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Nothing unusual here, right?

Cripes.

https://twitter.com/eschor/status/958110759489294336

#505 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

I think even the Dems know there isn’t real collusion so instead they will try to stick Trump on a technicality charge of  “obstruction”.

Mueller is a Democrat now? The FBI?

Do the Democrats have their own special prosecution team?

And it's not a technicality, it's a crime (if charged.)

#506 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Trump didn’t fire Mueller, so who cares if he thought about it? So now it is obstruction that is the focus? You don’t even hear about Russian collusion anymore. Now it is all about “obstruction”.


Right, because this was never about Russia.

Yea except to all of our intelligence agencies it always has been. It's been pointed out too many times to count, numerous articles posted etc etc. You just ignore and go about being willfully ignorant about what's happening, exaggerating opposing positions while ignoring other aspects outright, all while calling others bias.

Hmmm...who else projects all the time and lies non stop? Who else does that?

#507 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

Trump didn’t fire Mueller, so who cares if he thought about it? So now it is obstruction that is the focus? You don’t even hear about Russian collusion anymore. Now it is all about “obstruction”.

It matters greatly.

Why do you put obstruction in quotes? Is this how you guys are going to shift it as time goes on? Plenty of articles about both, there are no shortage of them.

#508 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/p … ussia.html

#509 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

If you're comparing me to Tucker, I say thank you.

It's an apt comparison, a right wing shill who probably has a cumulative lifetime sexual experience of less than 30 minutes with women.

#510 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 458 weeks ago

Also gotta love the silence from the evangelicals. I mean, I've always known they were full of shit, but this just takes the piss. Trump paying off a porn star with a shell account created by Cohen, right before the election.

Conservatives, especially conservative "christians" stand for absolutely nothing.

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