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#511 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
Is it true that Trump released from captive, among many, the person that’s currently leading al-qaeda?
No, he killed the last leader of Al Qaeda:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51409581
Maybe you meant, Taliban. In which case, still no.
Since you like politifact, here is an article that addresses your claim:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … -role-rel/
Intelligence experts thought he was the most rational leader to lead the Taliban, and so he was released from containment in Pakistan by Pakistan. And sure enough, he's now a senior leader in the Taliban.
Was that your attempt at a pot shot based off a far left site you read, or do you really not know how to google things? I have a hunch it's the former with your inability to condemn Biden for any transgression and desire to blame Trump for every wrong, real or perceived.
Is there another candidate you'd like to be leading the Taliban? And you really should do some research before conflating the Taliban with Al Qaeda.
#512 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
That interview didn't help Biden any. As usual, the intel community protects itself so I assume they were behind the immediate leaks to the press saying they briefed Biden on the risks and their projections of an imminent fall. I know just 4 years ago Democrats felt the intel community was sacrosanct and Trump was guilty of treason for disagreeing with their declarations. I can't find any of those pundits making the same argument.
Point:
Schumer called Trump’s criticism “extraordinarily inappropriate” and said it would “undermine public confidence” in the government’s efforts to protect national security.
and
Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also weighed in.
“The President has a dangerous habit of undermining the intelligence community to fit his alternate reality,” Warner said in a tweet. “People risk their lives for the intelligence he just tosses aside on Twitter.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.html
Hard to reconcile that with the current blame game.
These are the same spy agencies that didn't know ahead of time the USSR was about to collapse or 9/11. If they indeed didn't think this outcome would happen, add another failure to their list.
But in that interview Biden had a hard time pushing away the reality that people in the military and intelligence community thought his withdrawal plan was crap. Conflicting views are expected, but this crap where he's blaming Trump's timeline (May 1st) as an excuse for his failure to plan an orderly withdrawal of at minimum US Citizens before the military fell back to the airport is ludicrous. That's not taking ownership. We're more than 3 months passed Trump's deadline that no longer needed to be honored because the Taliban broke the conditions of the deal. Biden had no problem breaking the deals with Mexico, Guatemala and El Salvador to repatriate their citizens, so it's not like Biden had an issue undoing Trump's deals. So is Biden going to miss his August 31st deadline, or will he leave Americans behind under Taliban rule? He's making Carter look like a rockstar.
But that doesn't diminish the culpability our so called "allies" had in this. EU intelligence is just as good as ours, and they had no problem getting the fuck out of Afghanistan either, nor did they or are they willing to deploy troops to secure the region. So opinions from world leaders with armies they can't even fully supply don't hold much weight with me.
#513 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
Like when Flagg and I would go a few rounds from time to time and he'd say something like "even those whose grandpas served in WWII".
Obviously that's directed at me...subtle yet direct. Half the time I would laugh...he usually had perfect timing with it and he usually was making a good point before or after the dig.
Ha, I don't have any recollection of this. Too much weed. But I can only assume it was directed in the context of people arguing they inherit something because of their ancestors. Whether that be wartime heroics or systemic injustice, my answer is still your experiences are your own.
Edit: Found one post from 10 years ago:
http://www.gnrevolution.com/search.php? … 1126885438
Damn I'm a sage 
#514 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesnt consider CD a guns n roses album anymore » 247 weeks ago
I get that a lot of the fire and edge that defined Guns was created when they were broke and largely homeless. But do we really think that these professional musicians can't create new songs because they're in their 50s? Hardwired wasn't the best Metallica album, but it was a shit ton better than Saint Anger and Death Magnetic, and they're the same age as GN'R. I love some of the songs Slash has done with the Conspirators - World on Fire is fucking great. Hell, I hoped to see Axl cover it live. Do I think they could recreate Appetite today, no. But that doesn't mean they couldn't make really kick ass rock n' roll.
#515 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
The amount of leftwing media sources trying to pin this on Trump is flabbergasting me. Even arguing that his pullout would have been as bad or worse. No effort to qualify any of it, just opining as if their statements are self evident. I don't think anyone could predict the Taliban would gain ground so quickly, and the Afghani army owns its cowardice and inability to respond to insurgent ground forces.
But knowing now that the Afghani Army was a complete joke, I don't see how the end result would have been any different. Sure, maybe 5k troops staged in Kabul would have stopped the Taliban from entering, but it's just a waiting game at that point. Same end result, just a matter of when the US pulls back and the Taliban enters. Westerners have this false belief that everyone wants the same things they do. If you mean comfort and personal safety, then yea that's human nature. But if you mean a system of egalitarian values and meritocracy, that's a relatively new idea only created in the past few hundred years and implemented with varying degrees of success. Biden was telling people America is worse off now than they were in the 1950s when it comes to egalitarianism. So I don't know how you create an Afghanistan structured around a Constitutional Republic with a loyal and capable military willing to defend their government.
I'm much more concerned about the tens of thousands of uneducated, illiterate Afghani's whose entire existence was in tribal Islam trying to be brought to the US by Biden. I understand the heart strings, but their presence will result in rape, murder and terrorism to the American people. It has with every other "refugee" group we've foolishly admitted because it looks good in a sound byte.
#516 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:It’s a horrible scene, but a fitting bookend to the images of Americans jumping from the WTC.
This is really an amazing observation. I'm serious. It's cinematic almost.
Not mine. I heard it on CNN
#517 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
Hahahaha. Biden’s state department lacky spent 2 minutes on Afganistan before transitioning to the earth quake in Haiti. Holy shit, talk about being tone deaf. CNN just cut from it it was so laughable. I guess the timing of bringing out the DoD rep at a different location is just coincidence. How long until the General swaps to a topic other than Afghanistan.
I feel bad for this General. He’s a two star, and the vice director for logistics for the joint chiefs. I can think of no less than 50 other higher ranking flag officers who should be representing the pentagon and are actually connected to Afghanistan. Feel bad he drew the short straw and has to stand up there? Where’s Austin? He wasn’t shy for the cameras a couple weeks ago discussing CRT?
Really glad the DoD head for special immigrant visas is talking. I’m sure he’s connected to the pulse.
I recant my earlier statement. If the best Biden can do is put random, no name suits in front of a mic and not his secretaries and senior military staff, he’s not up to this task. I don’t know why I thought he was behaving competently for once.
#518 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
I thought it was fair and to the point. I don’t get caught up on the when of an inevitably. Biden didn’t think the takeover would happen this fast. He acknowledged that, and is the focus of any criticism I have of him. The Afgani’s being a complete fucking joke isn’t something any General briefed or an argument multicultural relativist want put forward, but it’s the truth.
I don’t want thousands of refugees and their 100 person families being flown over either cause a person got paid $100 to translate a day a few times. You were paid for your service. Doesn’t entitle you to American citizenship. You gambled the Afghani government would stand, or you saw a quick buck. Thanks for your help, but these guys aren’t the Kurds who fought beside us in Iraq or Syria.
The Afgani’s wouldn’t defend their own country. Idiots clinging to a C-17 on the runway for unknown reasons aren’t heroic either. They either watched too many BLM roadblocks in America or aren’t aware that flying at 500 miles per hour at 30k feet isn’t a habitable zone for humans. It’s a horrible scene, but a fitting bookend to the images of Americans jumping from the WTC.
#519 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
Well, we took away their intelligence, logistic capabilites, air support and basically grounded their air force. We didn't do them any favors and pretty much hamstrung them. Reading the Taliban have already executed some military officers.
I disagree with this assessment. We spent the past 10 years developing each of those for their internal use. If the UK pulled out of a joint conflict at the drop of a hat, we wouldn't say they took our intelligence and supply chain. We're capable of supporting those on our own. Those two are the most important part of any military conflict, so you're right in the sense that comparing Afghani capabilities to US is an unfair (and unreasonable) comparison. But at what point would Afghani's be able to be independent? The Taliban didn't have CIA analysts in the room with them (though they most certainly had KGB
) as they planned their next move, the Afghani's did.
This looks bad, but the more I think on it, the more I ask "when would the Afghani's be ready?" If the answer to that is in a few months, then maybe Biden's decision to leave now is a colossal blunder. But if we don't know or the answer would be years, we have to ask if we want to commit more lives and resources for a hypothetical scenario where the Afghani's can defend themselves. Based on their quick surrender and complete lack of a military response, I don't know if that time would ever come. Biden is responsible, but we need to be objective when evaluating what other options were on the table.
#520 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 247 weeks ago
On the positive side the Afghan people have finally gotten self determination back. More than my country can say.
I generally define self determination in this context to mean plurality of a democratic vote. But you can certainly argue their lack of any defense and quick collapse to Taliban rule is indicative they never wanted a western government. Russia certainly agrees with your point for what it's worth.
