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#521 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 298 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

AEW's problem is that they allow the wrestlers to be their own writers and the majority of them just don't have the talent to do that. the promos are cringey. They don't have a plan for storylines. Some of the matches look like a bunch tumbler circus perfomers, where it's too choreographed and dependent on big spots. The wrestlers got mad at Jim Ross for saying they're just doing the same shit over and over, but it's true.

They need Paul Heyman running things. Punk has pretty much laid it out he wants to go to AEW, but what's the point if they don't have a good story?


100% agreed on AEW. A lot of technical talent amongst them in terms of the things they can do in the ring but nothing stringing it together and too many matches are spotfests. Too many matches where they just set up a lot of highspots, it looks stupid. At least in WWE there are matches that can be good and make sense in the context of the "sporting contest", they just lack any interesting storyline around them to make you care.

It's good that AEW let them go out there for promos unscripted but they need to have more structure to what they do, the talent can't call all the shots.

#522 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 298 weeks ago

James wrote:

20 man writing teams? There shouldn't be writing teams period.

Booker's don't exist anymore in wrestling? What the hell do the smaller feds do?

I agree, one booker and maybe some close confidants he checks in with for advice are all that should be needed. WWE have two A shows to book, a B show and a bunch of C shows, all running every week with their own rosters. It really just should be Vince as head booker of the whole promotion, with 1 guy underneath him for each show.

Instead you have for Raw and Smackdown:

Vince
A Head Writer
A Whole team of other people

And then a similar but smaller situation with HHH for NXT.

It's too many people. Just have Vince and a small booking committee where each member is in charge of one show each, and a bit of coordination amongst them (Vince may not want guy A being champ if guy Z is champ on the other show etc.)

#523 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Gn’R related thing still excites you? » 298 weeks ago

Well, new music was at least mentioned. Kerns says he "knows there is new GNR music at some point".

Fortus at least gives the honest answer:

With Guns, it's all very secretive. It's all very weird, we're not really public. Those guys, especially, they're like, 'We don't talk about it, it happens when it happens.'

Meh.

#524 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

What you’re speculating about isn’t known. It’s speculation. You nor the narrative you’re following have provided any evidence of a “plan”. When a law enforcement agency and not a progressive politician looking for attention make that claim and provide evidence, I’ll give it its due consideration.  You’re embracing the latest conspiracy from the same outlets and actors that have deceived you repeatedly.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

How about you demand the same evidence you required of Trump sycophants calling conspiracy.

Well yeah, waiting for an investigation and this to be confirmed by agencies is smart. Can still be alarmed by testimony of people who were there though. I still would want evidence before action based on these claims is taken, doesn't mean I can't show concern about it.

Not sure when I was deceived previously.

#525 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 298 weeks ago

James wrote:

Wrestling the past 15 years or longer is unwatchable. It's garbage.


The highlight moments of the past 15 years are few and far between and they are all just moments. Moments that started or came during angles that all eventually died.

Hardy Vs Punk feud in 09. Actually good start to finish.
Nexus, great start and then killed at Summerslam
Punk's pipebomb, great angle and that build from the pipebomb to him winning at MITB. Gold. After that, all downhill rushed and blown. That angle actually generated a small bit of buzz it was that good.

Honestly other than those three, there has been some good matches and good moments here and there as well but they are all part of 3 hour long shows filled with garbage. Even those two storylines I mentioned... to watch at the time you had to sit through so much shit.

They need to cut RAW back to 2 hours and get back to basics. Ditch the 20-man writing teams and get back to a small team. Could also be wise for Vince to take a less hands on roll at this point, but that will never happen.

I've tried to enjoy AEW, but it's all too ridiculous for me.

#526 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

James wrote:

An investigation top to bottom is needed right now. I wish they'd focus more on this than impeachment hearings.

Panic buttons had been ripped out of offices before they stormed the Capitol. Combine that with some of these people getting a tour of the Capitol beforehand, it's starting to look like a plan was in place. It just got fucked up.

No reason these two things can't happen side by side. News is supposed to focus on what is known and right now these are just details coming out drip by drip. It definitely is looking like a plan that just didn't go to plan rather than something more spur of the moment. Definitely starting to seem like those that invaded the capitol had help on the inside.

#527 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

Look if he can behave and not talk down to people and put words in their mouth I have no issue with him or anyone. If someone does I'm  gonna give it right back. I/we have put up with this for far too long.

Show even a glimmer of respect and I'll return it. There was a good civil chat going on here. I hope we can return to it.

The bold part. That's the biggest issue. It's possible to disagree about things without talking others down and talking up how much smarter you are. It's boring shit.

#528 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

I read (and saw on the news) that there was expectation that a vote could and would happen today. I may have understood wrongly though.

#529 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Are you able to participate or is this what the forum is becoming.  We saw what the forum was like for a week before ID posted, all of you in a chorus and calling SG human trash. Not the brilliant discussion you thought it was.  You're free to leave too.  Or participate.  Your choice.


I mean I participated earlier in this thread when we were actually discussing current events. Then you both came back and instead of disagreeing with anyone in a civil way you both struck your typical aggressive and combative tones and immediately started harping on about the protests and riots from the Summer instead of focusing on the current events of this past week.

I never called SG "human trash" or any other names IIRC. If I did SG, I am sorry. I think you're wrong about so much of this but doesn't mean anyone should hurl insults around.

Back on topic. Protests against racial injustice, spilling into part looting and rioting is one thing. A premeditated invasion of the capitol to halt the certification of a legitimate election and to attack congressmen is another. It's even more galling when they were spurred on by the president on the back of lies about an electoral fraud.

In the Summer I saw lots of politicians encouraging the protestors to keep protesting - I never saw any promoting the unfortunate violence
that occurred. At the end of the day those protests - and the riots and violence that stemmed from them - at least came from an issue that had merit and wasn't based on lies. This shit about an election being stolen stems from a bunch of sore losers spreading lies and disinformation, it has no grounding in reality and has become worse than any of this shit from the Summer.

To those saying we shouldn't discuss these issues because we're not American. 1) The USA is the most influential country in the "Western World". It is topical everywhere and things that happen in the US can affect the whole globe. Your domestic issues are often of global interest. 2) On a personal note, I'm married to an American and have been over all the time and have plenty of friends from the US. I have some local knowledge mixed with a foreigners perspective. I feel qualified to comment on what I see.

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