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#521 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 181 weeks ago

Pretty sure Buckets SR solo was basically just noodling elephant noises. Not much to it.

I’ve heard Fernando gave a bunch of songs to people, have no idea the truth. The major source of leaks came from people at the label. It’s how it fell into the hands of people who didn’t even care what they had., who most likely never even kept them

#522 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 182 weeks ago

Scabbie wrote:

I'm still not with you all. Are you saying hoarders have a copy of what was destined to be the follow up to CD, all tracks (incl. vocals) recorded mixed and mastered? Or just various additional songs to the first album in various states of completion that COULD have been CD2?

CD2 exists.

Have no idea about the dynamics of what’s going on with the band currently, but people have those recordings. At least as far along to have Bumble’s contributions.

#523 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 182 weeks ago

otto wrote:
James wrote:
Axl S wrote:

Those leaks in 06 of Catcher and the older versions of TWAT and IRS. That same source was a six song disc/tape transfer that included Hard School, Atlas and Prostitute.

Do you guys remember the shit storm when that CITR clip leaked out in the open? It wasn't supposed to....the clip only existed to use as trade bait.

It took weeks for it to finally leak in full....and it was leaked begrudgingly.

Razz leaking the "checkmate" clip caused a massive shit storm.

These two leaks were showing that there was more material out there....and the lowly plebs weren't supposed to know that.

Look how long it took to finally get Checkmate/Hard School out in the open.

By the way....there was more than one disc.

That's what those two leaks were on the verge of exposing publicly....and had to be shut down.


Yes.... people are going to die with this stuff in their cold, dead hands.

In reality....the fan base is lucky to have gotten as much material as they have.

At least two versions of a finished CD circulated by mid January to June 2001 between Universal execs on what would be GNR major markets at the time (Latin America, Japan, US and UK). During 2002 another version, with added songs was auditioned to promoters prior to the tour.

After the tour cancellation, it was dead silent until 2004 prior to Rock In Rio Lisbon, where the same tracklist with additional instrumentation was circulated again.

Dead silence again until 2006 where multiple mixes and tracklists were circulated with execs and promoters, again.

I believe most of these are in the hands of hoarders and definitely there are people who have it (promoters, execs, PAs, ARs) all around the world who don't even value these or know they are sought after as they received it from basically all major acts.

I know for a fact that a few people in Brazil have a 2001, a 2004 and two 2006 discs. There's definitely more out there.

This is spot on.

#524 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 182 weeks ago

ClaudeF wrote:
misterID wrote:
ClaudeF wrote:

Good news if true. Where did you hear this, and are there any details?

Just chatter right now. It amazes me the hoarders still have such a hold on those recordings

This is a ray of hope because God knows the band isn’t giving us any.

Are you hearing only about the two songs or hints of more?

I’ve known from way back that all the songs are out there, and some of the people who had them weren’t even fans. Trying to get CD II rn.

#525 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 182 weeks ago

ClaudeF wrote:
misterID wrote:

If Se7en and Soul Monster are really in circulation right now, let’s talk

Good news if true. Where did you hear this, and are there any details?

Just chatter right now. It amazes me the hoarders still have such a hold on those recordings

#526 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 182 weeks ago

And the race hucksters really want a riot

#527 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 182 weeks ago

Neely’s parents saying it was intentional and want stiffer charges… why was their don allowed to roam the streets? Why weren’t they taking care of him? Why wasn’t he placed in a state home? They can shut the fuck up

#528 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 182 weeks ago

If Se7en and Soul Monster are really in circulation right now, let’s talk

#529 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 183 weeks ago

Everything we’ve heard has been because of fan initiatives. The leaks are really part of our small group of friends who’ve been on this train since 98-99. I’d be down for throwing in something to get the rest of the material the hoarders have then getting some quality mixing and mastering on it just for us. Create our own box set. I don’t really care what they release officially at this point

#530 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why do people tend to take Tommy's word for everything? » 185 weeks ago

Beta was bitching the label had the album and were sitting on it

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