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#5341 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 896 weeks ago
I could really care less about who's in the band. I'm the biggest Bucket fan around here, and I don't throw out those "buts" you mention. For me, it's about the music. If the music was shit, I wouldn't be here.
By your analogy, I should be a big Velvet Revovlver fan because Duff and Slash are there. I'm not. Why? The music is lame, derivative and totally uninspired to my ears. I like Izzy's solo stuff because he writes incredible songs and melodies. Who plays with him? I have no fucking clue. Who was in the Ju Ju Hounds? No fucking clue.
So, no, it's not about being fans of every single member but the sum of its parts.
You may not anymore, but you have in the past. It took you awhile to come to grips with no BH being in the band and alot of his parts being re-recorded. There are exceptions to every rule, maybe now you're one of them. Or maybe you just claim to be, I don't know you so I can't say for sure.
I love Slash and I don't listen to Snakepit at all and VR very little. I like some of Izzy's stuff and can tolorate Duff's solo stuff (though his singing is awful). I agree it's all about the music. It's also about what sounds good to you, not what sounds good to everybody.
This goes for everybody: I don't care if you love CD - I'm happy for you. Just don't go around trying to tell people that everybody here loves it or the new band because you can't get much further from the truth.
#5342 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 896 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Just something to pinder for the couple people that seem to think everybody is completely on board with the new band.
There's a lot of buts about AFD, UYI. Where have you been while those albums have been discussed the 450 million times on GNR message boards? From the use of cowbell to lame lyrics.
LOL - 2 examples? Good one. Way to prove me wrong.
Maybe I wasn't clear. The only people blasting AFD and UYI are doing so when forced to seek a weakness or fault. Can you say the same about CD? No. The faults are so obvious from the second you look at the booklet before you even put the album on.
#5343 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 896 weeks ago
What the fuck are you talking about, buzz? We've been talking about it for ten years! And where did I say it was doing phenomenomly well? You try to put more words in peoples mouths to help your argument than jarmo. And that always equals: you have a weak argument.
How are you protecting the legacy? Not to mention, why its needed, or who put you in charge of that. That's a strange stance to have.
Who said I was in charge of protecting the legacy? I didn't. However it is something I enjoy doing and for the most part, it's pretty easy to do. Maybe I should be in charge of it.
I was purposely exaggerating what you said - this album has not done pretty well under ANY circumstances and certainly not as the most hyped album ever.
I didn't make the album a failure. It is what it is. Embrace it - the album doesn't need to be successful for you to enjoy it. if you don't like that it was a failure, take it out on the people that made it a failure, not me. I don't have that much clout.
#5344 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 896 weeks ago
Another quick note - all the people that supposedly love this new band almost always say "but" right after that statement and proceed to say what they don't like about it.
Gimme a break. You can apply that to EVERY GNR record.
And who said everyone was down with the new band?
And I love the new band. Snoop around a bit, you'll see more of those posts.
I didn't say everybody was down with the new band. I know that isn't true, so I'd never say it.
I don't see a lot of "but" comments when it comes to AFD. I don't see a lot of "but" comments with Lies or UYI either unless someone is forced to start picking songs in an elimination or something along those lines. TSI is the only album that comes close to the criticism laid on CD, so I think you're talking apples and oranges.
#5345 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 897 weeks ago
Actually. the album has done pretty well, considering. Not unless your standards are ridiculously placed in a fantasy land. But seeing 500,000 (2 million world wide) albums (so far) ain't bad for a 'current' rock album, especially this album. No matter how many people want to label it a failure it isn't. The new direction, though not as successful as it would have been in 02, is not a failure and it isn't because people said no thanks.
And if you're judging by active "posting" on message boards to measure success, these boards were never deader than 03-05. It happens. There's little to talk about, except for Axl's so called interviews where he directly made oldvsnew a topic. And I guarantee you if there was news on a new leak the activity would jump.
I mean you can say no one cares..... But you sure seem to.
And when people bring up the myspace hits it always reminds me of Kartman showing up at youtube to get his internet dollars
"has done well considering" - the ultimate copout. Excuses, excuses.
There's little to talk about? A "great" current rock album was recently released and according to you is doing phenomenomly well. Why wouldn't all the fans - I don't know - talk about that?
I care about mirepresenting a great band that no longer exists. I care about protecting the legacy of that band (fortunately, CD's quality and the saga involved cemented the legacy of that band as seperated the successful band from this one). And yes, I still care what Axl Rose is doing in case he decides he wants to make listenable music again.
#5346 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 897 weeks ago
That's a copout Buzz because of the total membership here, most came because this site was the only site allowing discussion of leaks and sharing them. The "active" people here are what make this site, not some schmoe who signed up in 2006 to get the leaks and leave.
I'll have to say I missed that poll that asked if we were fans, so again, if you're gonna claim we aren't, then I think its inaccurate--by a clear mile.
But you go ahead and continue to assume we all hang out here because we're not fans. I'm gonna assume people on a GNR fan site are indeed GNR fans. We'll both be happier that way.
No copout at all. Skip EVERYBODY that joined only for the leaks for all I care - they would likely be supporting the new band anyway, right? I would still be ahead by a landslide...it wouldn't even be close.
I assume that everybody at a GnR board loves Guns N Roses. I'm not going to mistakenly assume that everybody likes whoever Axl hired to be Guns N Roses. That's the difference. I will always love Guns N Roses. Always. I will not always support whoever Axl hired at the moment to tour as Guns N Roses.
#5347 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 897 weeks ago
Another quick note - all the people that supposedly love this new band almost always say "but" right after that statement and proceed to say what they don't like about it. As in:
"I love the new band, but BH and Brian were the only 2 that made it good"
"I love the new band, but they need Robin and BH to tour"
"I love the new band, but Axl needs to promote the album"
"I love the new band, but who is going to replace Robin?"
For a band that so many people love, I see very few posts that say:
"I love the new band."
Just something to pinder for the couple people that seem to think everybody is completely on board with the new band.
#5348 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR holding audititons for a replacement for Robin? » 897 weeks ago
madagas wrote:for this album and this tour, Axl needs Robin and Bucket on guitar...in the end they are the spirit of CD. Tommy, Paul, Goose, Dizzy, and Axl are the foundation, but Robin and Bucket really have the most influence....both on stage and off.
Agree completely.
I've always maintained that Robin and Bucket, despite everything, compliment each other perfectly.
A hack on guitar compliments one of the most talented players out there? How so? Do you mean if you combine the two, they average out to an average guitarist? I'll give you that I guess.
Yes, Robin is all over CD. CD was also a giant flop. Add to that many people feel the reason for this flop is less BH on the album and more other guys, and I can't see any way that what you said even remotely makes sense. Robin helped write one of the biggest failures in music history. That will look good on his resume along with all his other (non-existant) writing credits. Give the guy credit for what he did instead of making up accomplishments...he wrote part of a flop and played choppy guitar on the album. I could have done that for 1/10th of what Axl paid him.
Robin and BH complimented each other? Please. CD would have been a better album without Robin.
#5349 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 897 weeks ago
misterID wrote:buzzsaw wrote:I don't think that is an accurate statement at all.
Of course you wouldn't.
Look at the poll for instance. Do the majority of people want to know about the future of GNR (this band) or hear Axl talk about Slash?
I don't think the vast majority of people would be here if it weren't for liking this band.
Slash is Gone puf! in the air is like be sad because Jim Morrison is not in The Doors and that is have no respect for the others musicians in the band the Guns N' Roses name turn you insane what you want Guns N' Fuckin Roses? thats it c'mmon go and cry to mum that daddy is gone Guns N' Roses is still going without slash like it or not just live with it
Huh? No hablo whatever the hell you tried to say.
As for the other posts, poll the full membership and you'll get a much different response than the "active" membership. The lack of success of the album tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about what people (in general) think of the new band and their "direction" - I don't need to create a poll, it's already been done and overwhelming response has been "no thanks".
Why do you suppose that posting in the GnR section is down unless it comes to some sort of an old vs new thread or Axl bashing Slash out of the blue? The evidence is right there in front of you. Even the active members don't care regardless of what they might claim in a poll.
#5350 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Time went by and it became a joke ... » 897 weeks ago
Yeah, most people here are big fans of this new "stooge" band.
But welcome anyway.
I don't think that is an accurate statement at all.
