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#531 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

I see Buzz is chill and definitely not unhinged as usual.

And I see Flagg came back and produced a post that is like his greatest hits. Striking a completely civil tone as he always does.


On the Trump in the bunker stuff... those protestors were not getting anywhere near the WH last Summer and the ones who were at the gates weren't even being violent. The violence was elsewhere in the city. The White House was also properly fortified and defended and it had the necessary personnel around the perimeter. They even used severe force to clear out the peaceful protestors outside the WH so that he could do a photo op holding a bible outside a church. These situations aren't comparable.

Reports coming out today that some of these guys in the crowd had maps of the tunnels under the capitol and had a lot more planned than they managed to pull off. Worrying stuff.

#532 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1348319655342075905?s=20

#533 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 298 weeks ago

At the end of the day the BLM protests in the Summer were for a fight against a real problem: overall racial inequality and the issue of systemic racism within policing. At the end of the day, there is ample evidence surrounding the proportion of black Americans who are injured or killed in custody when compared with white Americans. It is a real problem, and something worth people protesting.

Did those protests sometimes spill over into violent rioting? Yes.

But the negative aspects of the BLM protests comparable to what happened last Wednesday? No.

If that attack on the capitol goes even more sideways and they don't evacuate the chamber in time, or the insurrectionists find the VP, any senator, any congressmen or staffers then you could have been looking at a disaster day scenario. And with what we have learned since then with some capitol police being involved it's even more worrying. Their chances of success were slim but that was a coup attempt. Just because it was unsuccessful, and unlikely to be , doesn't mean it can be ignored and whitewashed.

The whataboutism is insane. Say what you want about the current state of the far left in the west but the most extreme shit they've done recently is disrupt some public transport and roads in the name of protesting about the climate crisis and an idiot (some opportunistic) fringe participating in rioting and looting. They weren't trying to kill the VP, and they aren't down the rabbit hole of believing one of the wealthiest countries in the world can't organise a secure mail in voting system.

On the censorship point... these are private platforms and publishers. They aren't obliged to carry his content. He has a press briefing room and also there is this thing called the internet. He can host a website and put out whatever shit he wants to. He has not been censored, his first amendment rights haven't been violated.

#534 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 303 weeks ago

After saying for years that he didn't actually like or vote for Trump, I am shocked to find out that Guns actually was not just a Trump voter, but one of his deluded supporters. Absolutely shocked.

#535 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 303 weeks ago

James wrote:

There's a fucking pandemic raging across the country. Shit tons of people....red and blue teams....have no desire to take extra risks getting sick. These types...if they're going to vote....will vote by mail.

Trump spent months telling these types not to vote by mail....so they don't vote.

This.

The man inadvertently ran a voter deterrence campaign agains his own voters.

He actually had a real shot at winning - look at how much better GOP did down ballot. If he didn't run an anti mail-in vote campaign and actually tried to appear sympathetic about the virus he probably could have squeaked out a win again. Instead he scored own goal after own goal and handed the Dems the White House - and he's doing everything now to aide them in the Georgia run offs which could hand blue team congress and the executive.

As someone who in US terms would lean politically a lot further left than the Dems to me this is great stuff, but as a political strategy I can see this is terrible. Dems have terrible messaging and won the WH despite themselves. I hope they don't learn the wrong lessons from this election, otherwise 22 and 24 are going to be rough for them.

#536 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 303 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

I will be fine. I am not defined by my president as you are. 2022 and 2024 will be interesting.

I guess that’s what makes it so easy for you to support an abject failure and overt asshole.

You will never accomplish 1/100th of what Donald J. Trump accomplished. It is sad to see you decay even further into a black hole of patheticness. I would say there was once hope for you as a poster, but you have been a shit poster your entire career here. A one trick pony of hate and division under the guise of liberalism. I hope Biden finally brings you the happiness you long for.

Serious these vibes from what you just wrote:

#537 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 303 weeks ago

James wrote:

When people look back on this election, it'll be obvious that Trump telling his own base to not vote by mail (even though he votes by mail) was a critical mistake.

You don't cut the legs out from under you like that and then expect to win.

It still boggles my mind that the GOP went along with this strategy. When has been making it harder for your own supporters to vote ever been a good strategy? They basically ran an accidental vote deterrence campaign against themselves.

#538 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 307 weeks ago

Been on my honeymoon this past week so haven’t had time to check in on this with you all.

This count is agonisingly slow. Just please call it and get it over with.

I’m not sure if Trumpism goes away. In ‘16 many may have thought once he was President the office may have moderated his behavior (which obviously didn’t happen). This time everyone who voted for him knew what they were getting and the simple fact of the matter is that a record setting amount of people in the US wanted four more years of that. There is clearly an appetite for what he offers among a large amount of the electorate.

#539 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash - Theme from “Love Story” » 309 weeks ago

I'm at the point now where whenever any GN'R member releases a solo thing, all I think is - what about a new GN'R release?

It's become the elephant in the room now. Since the reunion both Slash and Duff have done a solo release each. Now Slash has another due out in 2021. This would all be fine but the expectation has been set that there will be new Guns music at some point - if so, where is it? At the least where is some news on it?

If there isn't going to be any new Guns songs for the next few years or ever, that is also fine IF they actually say something about it. Having Slash and Duff do interviews the past year or two saying something is actually in the works and having Duff's wife on podcasts talking about it just makes it feel like fans are being led on.

#540 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 309 weeks ago

Also on all that Hunter Biden stuff. I haven't seen any of those pictures and videos yet and based on what may be in them I really don't know want to see them! I also haven't seen any reputable reporting on them yet. So, not saying they're fake but also staying very skeptical.

Especially with how good deepfakes and AI generated photos have gotten.

Checkout the new web show from the South Park guys, they use standard open source deep fake tech that people can run at home on their gaming PCs that cost $1000. The results whilst not perfect are impressive.




Then you have the way more impressive ability to fake faces in still photographs




Have a go on guessing which faces are real on the link in that tweet. I keep getting it wrong all the time.

I am not saying that Hunter Biden stuff is fake - because frankly I don't know. I'm just keeping an open mind because it easily could be. And the text message screenshots... anyone can fake those, that's hardly proof. Until somewhere reputable verifies this story I'll be skeptical.

Irregardless of all that, with the advances in technology and AI generated imagery, I worry about what things will be like in regards to politics in 10 years time.

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