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#561 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:PaSnow wrote:He won't get out till Wed or Thrus at the earliest. Even then you won't see him speak for a while (presssers). Keep in mind when you see him waving etc that might be the only hour or so he's awake all day, just wiped out 23 hours a day. About 10 years ago I had a bad flu on one day I only woke up a handful of time to drink orange juice. Other than that, asleep.
Last Christmas I had bad flu (suspicion it could have been Covid but without antibody test no way to know) and was similar. Short moments of feeling actually kind of ok and then long spells of feeling like death.
Funny you say that, I was sick in early December, around th 10th or so, got pretty bad around this area, people at work etc. I was talking to a friend a month or two ago, just about how things are with work/family etc. He was sick then too, and he seemed to think it was here long before China made this public, that it was already here in the US. It did seem like a bad flu season.
I had just been in the US and flew back to the UK via JFK or Newark (I forget which). Five days later - BANG! I am down for about 9-10 days.
No way of knowing but I remember reading first case in China may have actually been November, so it's within the realm of possibility.
#562 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
He won't get out till Wed or Thrus at the earliest. Even then you won't see him speak for a while (presssers). Keep in mind when you see him waving etc that might be the only hour or so he's awake all day, just wiped out 23 hours a day. About 10 years ago I had a bad flu on one day I only woke up a handful of time to drink orange juice. Other than that, asleep.
Last Christmas I had bad flu (suspicion it could have been Covid but without antibody test no way to know) and was similar. Short moments of feeling actually kind of ok and then long spells of feeling like death.
#563 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
That Covid parade in the car was ridiculous and a shitty thing to do to those secret service agents.
Will be interested to see any new polls today and to see if they actually release him from hospital. By all accounts no one patient in the world has been administered this combination of drugs and all of them are something that you would give to a patient that is more severe than they describe. Do think it’s weird that his doctor’s are administering drugs that are still waiting approval and/or are in trial - sounds like closer to desperation stuff.
#564 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
Flagg, the point was on the optics - if he had been pro mask it would have looked like he did more. That point flew over your head.
We could have discussion about whether masks help or not but it will be a pointless discussion, so let's not bother.
On protests. The reason I see those slightly different in terms of criticism of people having social gathering is this (and it goes for BLM ones and anti-mask ones): people who participate feel they are doing something very important and so the benefits of protesting outweigh the risk. They feel it is something that needs to happen to affect important change (be that addressing racial inequality or an attack they feel on their civil liberties vis-a-vis masks). A BBQ with neighbours from 5 different households in the middle of a pandemic seems like a less pressing need.
Anyway, it sounds like he's started treatment with some medicine that is for "severe" cases... yet they are talking about discharging tomorrow.
#565 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
Agreed Bri. All he had to do was appear competent- even if the outcomes were same as they are now.
Yes there would still be partisan scrutiny and criticism - that’s the nature of politics. But he’s handled this so badly and left open goals for attacks on this.
Masks 1) work and 2) from an optics point of view are a visible sign of action being taken. Even if you think they do nothing from an optics point of view it makes more sense for him to push them. At this point though that’s a lost cause.
#566 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Axl S wrote:Holy wow: NBC/WSJ poll finds Biden up 27 (!) among SENIORS.
— Josh Kraushaar (@JoshKraushaar) October 4, 2020
“The biggest declines for Trump in the poll come from seniors who are now backing Biden by a 62 percent-to-35 percent margin”Wow. I wonder if this a polling anomaly.
Chuck Todd teased new polling numbers he'll announce for Meet The Press, so I imagine it's this, or a similar polling stat. That wouldn't surprise me, the whole 'Young people get it' and 'herd mentality' talk is basically saying let the people who can't survive die. Pretty appaling.
I assume this is the main poll:
General Election: Trump vs. Biden NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Biden 53, Trump 39 Biden +14It's the largest lead Biden has had in any General Election poll, and I assume it came after the debate.
Like I said, Trump's debate performance was campaign self-immolation.
Yup this poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday, so pre Covid running rampant in WH and GOP news breaking. Polling for Thursday/Friday and Friday/Saturday will be interesting. Should get those tomorrow and Tuesday. The swing's in parts of this WSJ poll are crazy though.
#567 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
Holy wow: NBC/WSJ poll finds Biden up 27 (!) among SENIORS.
— Josh Kraushaar (@JoshKraushaar) October 4, 2020
“The biggest declines for Trump in the poll come from seniors who are now backing Biden by a 62 percent-to-35 percent margin”
Wow. I wonder if this a polling anomaly.
#568 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:I've disagreed with James on a lot of stuff in these threads in the past but on this I agree wholly. No issue these days can ever processed sanely without it becoming a black and white issue as part of a left/right culture war. I'd personally argue this started with the "right" but the the left are now sucked into it and feed the machine. The only stuff where I think this kind of thing is unavoidable is social issues around race and LGBT+, with all stuff like that throughout history it has been "bumpy" to put it mildly. But a global pandemic is not and should not have become a hyper political issue like that.
It blows my mind that Covid became so Red V Blue politicised in the USA. The fact that the discussion over there still seems to be about masks and social distancing is madness. Over here the big issue at the moment is testing capacity and efficiency - I don't see a peep about that in the US news yet see reports of +20% positivity rates in some States.
This outbreak by the sounds of things took hold in the GOP top brass and the admin on Fri 25th September, and possibly Trump gave it to Hicks not the other way around. This situation is a mess and if there is any sanity left, this display of incompetence and disregard for public safety will see them voted out of office. Not an election I can participate in but one that the whole world is watching.
I appreciate this post.
I’m going to have three issues with it no matter how the election turns out. The first, he’s being provided medical care that he would not provide for others. That’s on him.
Two, he made a whole show of undermining public health officials and doctors. He intentionally did not social distance and continue to put thousands of other people at risk as long as he wasn’t at risk.
And #3, he intentionally modeled bad behavior but not social distancing and wearing masks in public places.
All the while making fun of people like Biden and others who were trying hard to follow the rules and model good behavior.
It’s really hard to give someone sympathy when they were given all the help and tools necessary and still chose not to do it. Not only that, he flaunted his defiance.
Umm, I didn’t say anything about sympathy for him or his behaviour. In fact I criticised him and the GOP.
Anyways if you really are doubting he’s sick watch this clip.
Whatever happens when Trump says "therapeutics" here is a strange moment in the video he posted this evening pic.twitter.com/TaaG13AH2E
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 4, 2020
They edited the video to hide coughs. Watch it and you can notice the weird skip not just in the audio but also the video, it jitters right at that point (spotted it when looking at the flag in the background). He’s sick, possibly sicker than they’re letting on.
I think his only hope now is a heroic overcame Covid feel good story because he’s going to have a two week hole right now in campaigning and importantly fundraising - forget the optics side to this on the WH covid outbreak and the practical implications of a fortnight of lost campaigning alone are bad for them. Other move for them is to make chicken salad out of chicken shit, become a total circus and saturate the airwaves to nullify Biden campaign coverage.
#569 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR merch reaches a new low » 312 weeks ago
This one looks lazy but possibly looks better in person than it does on that photoshop mockup. Either way, outside of hopefully seeing them next year not buying any of this band's merch until they start actually releasing new music.
#570 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago
misterID wrote:— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2020[/embed]
This is the kind of stuff that’s going to make me feel like this was all a stunt.
Nah dude, when Boris was Covid stricken we had shit like this. He has it and they are now trying to "manage the optics" and spin their way out into this being a vote winner rather than a vote loser.
