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#561 Re: The Garden » Donald Trump running for President » 562 weeks ago

Cramer wrote:

No way he'd pick Palin for the Veep spot. Trump is an ass, but he's not stupid.


Depends on who he's listening to. Trump throughout this whole thing has made moves that everyone claimed would sink his ship. I personally think Palin is the WRONG choice, but then again, depends on the campaign he's running. McCain's campaign put a leash on Palin, and let the old vampire be front and center, so badly, that most dumb people thought Palin was running for Pres. and not McCain, because Palin was all the media talked about. They were glued to her.


Trump's campaign would let Palin go hog fucking wild. Insults, sex, sensationalism, bravado, *cue Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry*

It would either be suicide, or fucking landslide of a victory. People LOVE THAT SHIT. What if Trump was trending every single night because of it? 25 million tuning in for a Town Hall debate? Money, money, money.


It all depends on what campaign he's going to run when he gets the nomination.


Remember something, Obama didn't get elected in 2008 because he was the right candidate. He got elected because he was "the rock star" Barack Obama. The "great uniter" Obama. 50,000 people at Coors Field (or wherever the fuck it was) Obama. He's a rock star. A celeb. His favorite show on TV is... whatever...


Trump & Palin invented that game, and added chapters to the book.

It all depends on what campaign he's gonna run. Politics or celebrity.


The downside of Palin is, Trump can expect NO middle of the isle moderates to vote for him. None. But if he's got moderate Republicans, conservative Republicans, Tea Partiers, Libertarians, and "White" Kardashian-hype (the media machine, talking about him & Palin ad nauseum). He might not need it.



Still think Trump/Cruz is the better bet.

#562 Re: The Garden » Donald Trump running for President » 562 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Trump can't even handle a Fox News reporter, how the he'll does anyone think he could work with other lawmakers or sitting across the table from Putin?

This is simply not true. The internet is running wild with this as a meme, and it's all being sourced from the Democrat side.

I used to respect Kelly, she used to provide intelligent, un-biased, journalism on Fox News, and hey -- she's gorgeous. She was good at her job.

But since "The Kelly File" started, in the last couple years Kelly has been increasingly turning into the female O'Reilly or Hannity for Fox News. Maybe it has been Kelly's need to try to compete with her male counterparts, but she has embraced reporting on worthless news stories (anybody see that garbage interview with the Duggar family?) and has very much PANDERED to the religious right that view Fox News.

Trump's complaints about how Kelly handled herself on that first Fox News Republican debate were DEAD ON. And I say that as someone who would've only a year ago given Kelly the benefit of the doubt, and slammed Trump. But the Donald was right. And Trump wasn't the only complainer. Behind the scenes, Huckabee, Paul, Cruz, Christie, Walker, Fiorina, and others complained to Fox News that Kelly was out of line with her questions.

The one I HATED the most was when Kelly teased "God" before going to commercial, in order to invoke the name of God, then sell ad time. They get back and she starts asking Facebook questions about God, that had absolutely not a fucking thing to do with what any of them were there to talk about that night. At all. And it's also -- very personal. It was inappropriate and out of line and didn't have fuck all to do with anything. She put them on the spot, just for the sake of sensationalism. And in the last few years she's started to lose me with stuff like that.

Trump's decision to not participate in the debate... ballsy. What he's doing is pulling a J.R. He's trying to break Megyn Kelly, by pulling money out of Rupert Murdoch's mouth. Trump knows he's the brand name that brings the advertising dollars to these debates.

Right now all this 'spin' on "Trump can't handle Megyn Kelly, let alone Putin" is nothing more than political spin to try to make Trump look weak.


I actually see it as making Trump look EVEN MORE like a badass. What he's saying to his followers is, i'm so big, I don't have to participate in the status quo debates, and i'll still get a bump in the polls for doing so. Fuck Fox News. Fuck CNN. Fuck mainstream media.


Like I said... ballsy. We'll find out after tomorrow whether Trump made a smart or dumb play. But it's a chess move, not cowardice. Egotism definitely. Trump is circumventing the system, and I think his supporters are going to see it as the same.

BigBri wrote:

If you are against Trump, he shuts down and resorts to name-calling. If you praise him, he's on your side. As easy to control as a 2-year-old or a well-trained dog. All Putin had to do was say a few nice things about him a few months back, and he was his best friend. A few more nice things from Putin and Trump would have been ready to dissolve NATO. Dude is dangerous not just for the U.S. but the entire world. He's a joke.

Oh please. If you want to call the guy out, call him out on his dickness. But don't call him out on his mouth. That's the biggest refreshing thing about him. He just spews whatever. It's called -- THE TRUTH. It might be HIS truth, but that's why people love him.

Why would we need ANOTHER politician who plays around with Orwellian "word speak" and hides behind politics, instead of just saying what they fucking mean? I'm sick of it, and I know alot of other people are as well. This is why Trump is doing so well, and why he appeals to so many. People feel like the only guys up there telling them the truth are Donald & Bernie, and everyone else are politician liars. Even Ted Cruz & Rand Paul who did this stuff to get to where they were at, have fallen back to politics as usual in their Presidential run, and neither candidate has figured out that Trump & Sanders stole their thunder.

People are sick of being talked to like they are children by these politicians. Trump appeals to the casual American. He talks to them like a New Yorker at a Yankees game. Believe it or not... some people like that.

Guess who rode that wave to success elsewhere?



Putin


bigbri wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Then you should all welcome a guy like Trump. If anyone is to crash the system, it is him. Me I'd vote for the neighbor's dog if meant no more establishment.

The system is already run by billionaires. How is another billionaire gonna change that. If anything, Trump is the one the establishment could control the easiest. He has no firm beliefs; he can be swayed by simplistic compliments, ala Putin.

Trump also could just be being honest. If someone says they love you one day, you love them back. If they say fuck you the next, you tell them fuck you back.


I call it honest. Alot of people do. It's not typical politics. And people are loving it right now. Good or bad.

I also don't believe Trump has no firm beliefs. But I agree he needs to be a bit more forthcoming and open about how he sees America and it's future and his place in it. His entire campaign so far as been to tear everyone else down (and rightfully so---so fucking so).

Maybe Trump is waiting for the nomination, and then the main election cycle to get down to business about his plans. Who knows?

BigBri wrote:

If he gets the nomination, watch who his VP is. It'll be an establishment dude who will be the one to really run things if Trump were to win. The same way Cheney was picked for George W.


This is a damn good point. You're spot on here. I, believe it or not, JUST TODAY had this EXACT conversation with someone who asked me my honest, straight-forward opinion of what Trump would do in this scenario.

I told them the smart decision would be Ventura or Cruz, or even a dark match guy like Paul.

But... in my gut... Trump is going to be seen by advisors as THE "shaker upper",  so the GOP is going to want a more traditional conservative on the ticket as to not alienate the voter base of the standard far right-types that drive the party.

With all of this propping up of Sarah Palin lately, and Palin throwing her support behind Trump and not the tea partier Cruz... I got this BAD feeling that Trump is already resurrecting Palin for a reason.

From their perspective (not mine, I HATE Palin), Palin solves a multitude of problems for a Trump administration. 1) She's female. That immediately helps them counter a Trump vs. Hilary ticket, is the female perspective. 2) She has a RABID fanbase, no different than Trump. Palin already has built in support from people who felt she got robbed in 2008. 3) Palin appeals to far right Republicans, as well as being seen as a Tea Party icon. Palin being on the ticket brings in BOTH neo-con voters & ultra-con Tea Partiers who see Palin as anti-establishment. 4) Palin OWNS the Reality Star/Celebrity politician gimmick that Trump owns as well. Despite what people think of Palin, she is her own brand name of reality/celebrity that Trump is, and she absolutely owns at it. I can't stand her, but I give her credit, she knows how to play the cameras and knows how to work a microphone, even if she's dumb as fuck. Her looks will also be compared to Hilary, no doubt, and no matter how sexist, and she's gonna be seen as the better package, even if her family are spoiled, rich, white fucking trash.


If not Palin, they might consider Rubio or Carson. But, I don't know... the more weeks and weeks go on, the more I see Palin as the logical VP for Trump. It just makes too much sense to not happen.


It'll probably cost Trump my vote if he goes that option. I personally think Trump's daughter Ivanka would be a FAR better option than Palin if he's thinking of going that direction.

#563 Re: The Garden » Best attack ad ever to help a candidate lol » 562 weeks ago

Yeah I gotta kind of agree. I don't really understand the fear the GOP insiders have of Hilary, other than the fact that Hilary is in with the power-elite and they will ensure her victory and give her a blank check.


But you have to remember, there are some conservatives that literally shit their bed nightly if the word "Socialism" is even coughed. They're terrified of it. To the bone.

Full socialism isn't a solution, but sometimes -- it is. Socialism has never been the problem, no different than Democracy isn't the problem. CORRUPTION is the problem. People being corrupt, and corrupting the system, and for the GOP that boogeyman is liberals/socialism. For Democrats it's the corporations and uber-rich. And both of them ARE WRONG. But I digress.

Either way, Obamacare needs to go. Not because it's Socialized Medicine. Because IT'S NOT Socialized Medicine. I wish we had Socialized Medicine in America. Obamacare isn't it. It is VERY pro-insurance company and VERY anti-patient. It was written by the biggest corporate-types in the industry and is more like Authoritarian Medicine.

Unfortunately the health care situation in America is now a political football, and the people who argue for or against it couldn't give a flying fuck about the health of citizens. All they care about is votes, and using fear to get that vote. Democrats promote the fear of not having health care, and Republicans promote the fear of forced health care. Neither have anything to do with actual health care, or the quality of it.


The reason so many in the GOP fear Bernie is his so obvious direct socialist approach. They thought Obama would be a Socialist, Bernie would double-down. But I gotta hand it to the guy. He's fucked up Hilary's easy approach, and has shaken things up, no different than Trump with with GOP. The reason Trump & Sanders have held their numbers, if not gained, shows how disenfranchised the country has become with the status quo.

#564 Re: Guns N' Roses » DAVE MUSTAINE: 'It Would Be Terrific' If STEVEN ADLER And IZZY STRADLI » 563 weeks ago

I thought Mustaine was "too cool" for GN'R after the RIP Magazine show, and Axl basically absolved himself of ever having anything to do with him?


Mustaine is being awfully diplomatic for a guy, who makes Axl look like Mick Jagger.


Mustaine the other day did another interview trying to "correct" the interviewer and basically say how he was the only founding member of Megadeth, and started naming off all of the nobody's that played in his garage 5 years before Megadeth released Rust.


He's a dick. I like him. But a dick.

#565 Re: Guns N' Roses » How STEVEN TYLER Helped Reunite GUNS N' ROSES » 563 weeks ago

That's not good. If Steven alluded to it being very personal (like we all knew), then this thing could be hanging by a thread.


Wouldn't be Guns N' Roses otherwise.

#566 Re: Guns N' Roses » Watching Welcome to the Videos » 563 weeks ago

I liked Welcome To The Videos, but I was always pissed off that the You Could Be Mine video wasn't on there. That's my favorite GN'R video.

#567 Re: Guns N' Roses » Watching Welcome to the Videos » 563 weeks ago

Aussie wrote:

They were going to release It's so Easy as a video.  But I think that got pulled because Axl had the spousal abuse problems with Erin and the footage of her in bondage etc in the video was not a good look given that backdrop.  Obviously you can get bootleg copies.

I agree about Nightrain that would have been a great single to push more with a video.


Anybody remember when Axl was in that litigation with Erin in the mid-90's and tried to buy up ALL tapes that existed of that It's So Easy video to keep them from evidence, and destroyed them all.


Only for them to survive and be on YouTube and Erin coming to GN'R shows with friend, and being friends with Slash on FB.



Wonder how many sleepless nights and money Axl wasted on that?

#568 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nightrain Official Site » 563 weeks ago

Axl & Duff did SEVERAL shows in 2014 with DJ, Ron, Richard, Frank, Dizzy & Chris.


It was publicly talked about. News articles in Rolling Stone & Billboard. "DUFF MCKAGAN RETURNS TO GUNS N' ROSES"



Not one fucking ticket went up in price


The tour DID NOT SELL MORE than the previous tours


It was New GN'R business as usual, the only fucking difference was they played "Raw Power" & "Attitude" from Spaghetti

GN'R was NOT a more valued brand, because Duff McKagan was there. Nobody cared, outside of diehards.



But Slash comes back... and all of the sudden, it's $300 tickets, $1,000 scalping, and $2500 for some fucking snails & crackers served by Del goddamn James




Which leads me back AGAIN... why Duff and not Dizzy Reed

#569 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA 'Couldn't Be Happier' About Partial Reunion Of GUNS N' ROSES' » 563 weeks ago

DJ didn't catch abuse from Axl. Axl strung DJ along, like he has every guitarist since Slash, keeping them in the band with the promise of making music together.

DJ also came into Guns a complete fanboy of the band (no different than his dealing with Motley Crue and why he's in Nikki's band), and DJ got all these thoughts in his head that he was going to be apart of something special, and actually BE GNR's guitarist, no different than Robin, Bucket & Ron.

DJ imo went back to Axl, only to find out Axl didn't have any plans to write or record with him and when "Dad" finally told the truth, DJ left and that post went up. DJ felt used, and DJ was used. Ballad of Death would've made a fine GN'R song.

DJ & Richard both started altering their style to match Slash's more. I wonder if there might've been some incentive in that to try to record some music.

Me thinks Axl is tortured by the memory of Slash. He didn't want him, yet can't move on from him, he wants to write differently, yet is only inspired by him...


The only snowball's chance in hell we'll have of getting new music is Slash. Never thought i'd EVER say that.

#570 Re: Guns N' Roses » TOMMY STINSON: Classic GN'R Reunion 'Will BeHealing Thing' For Them" » 563 weeks ago

apex-twin wrote:

I agree that the contracts were renewed, at some point, to all the way up to the 2014 residency.

In around April, in South America, Ron 'quit', according to a "confirmed source with the band." Curiously, this was when Duff was around. It's tempting to think Ron and Duff had a heart-to-heart, and Duff recalled the way he felt in '97. Ron would've seen Slash coming, anyway, and he had been chronically unhappy with Guns since 2011. He'd attempted suicide on tour, because of his back injury and the medication he was on.

In May, it was reported that Axl was putting the band on hiatus after the residency. This ties in with what Tommy said, they all 'left it in Vegas'. Axl and Duff had their own plans to hatch, and it was probably up in the air who would get the call, eventually. This was apparently all right with Tommy as well, as he had personal issues coming up that would possibly hinder his future touring with Guns.

In mid-June, Appetite for Democracy Blu-Ray, from the 2012 residency, is finally released. Two weeks later, DJ posts his letter and the source confirms Ron has also left the band. The band was on hiatus, so big deal. The Occam's Razor solution offered by many here is that both Ron and DJ simply accomodated the Blu-Ray release by announcing their exits after it hit.

They all left for their own reasons. With Ron and DJ, it was the lack of new songs and an album, along with the likelier undertaking to purge the CD vault. There's less to be gained in royalties by putting in a new guitar solo to a decade-old track. Also, Ron was up to here with Team Brazil and their irreverent attitude towards him as an employee / contract player, despite the many times he did more than his share to save the day. DJ, well. He had the album thing, too, but also, he was taking the heat, left, right and center. Deservedly so, to a degree.

Not sure if anyone pointed it out or not (because I haven't read all the way through, but your timeline is off.


Appetite For Democracy came out in the summer of 2014, only a few months after the final show. DJ & Ron's confirmed exits were an entire year later, not two weeks.

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