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#571 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago

I've disagreed with James on a lot of stuff in these threads in the past but on this I agree wholly. No issue these days can ever processed sanely without it becoming a black and white issue as part of a left/right culture war. I'd personally argue this started with the "right" but the the left are now sucked into it and feed the machine. The only stuff where I think this kind of thing is unavoidable is social issues around race and LGBT+, with all stuff like that throughout history it has been "bumpy" to put it mildly. But a global pandemic is not and should not have become a hyper political issue like that.

It blows my mind that Covid became so Red V Blue politicised in the USA. The fact that the discussion over there still seems to be about masks and social distancing is madness. Over here the big issue at the moment is testing capacity and efficiency - I don't see a peep about that in the US news yet see reports of +20% positivity rates in some States.

This outbreak by the sounds of things took hold in the GOP top brass and the admin on Fri 25th September, and possibly Trump gave it to Hicks not the other way around. This situation is a mess and if there is any sanity left, this display of incompetence and disregard for public safety will see them voted out of office. Not an election I can participate in but one that the whole world is watching.

#572 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago

If anything it appears they are trying to downplay the severity of his condition.

mitchejw, you keep looking for a cover up or a hoax here. When has this admin ever struck you as competent enough to pull that off? They leak like a sieve.

#573 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 312 weeks ago

So... the doctors have known for the last 72 hours he was positive. He's been on treatments for 48 hours.

It only came out he tested positive about 36 hours ago, he was doing campaign events on Thursday. Wtf.

#574 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

I wonder if Melania's pissed?

Well this got buried by the positive Covid test but this also leaked last night from 2018. I'd imagine she's pissed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTabCakEfVQ

#575 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

This is gonna be a crazy 24-48 hours

Most likely longer.

#576 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

Trump just manipulated the media again....this is so disgusting...so fucking disgusting...

Dude, I don't like him either but... he may just have Covid and since he's old and fat be quite sick from it.

#577 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

And he's now in hospital. As someone from the UK who saw this exact show with our guy months ago get ready for 24/7 hospital watch.

#578 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

I see this as a desperate ploy for sympathy...he probably doesn’t have it.

If it's all a lie it's one of the most overt lies to the public ever surely. I'd imagine it's real. It's a shock it's taken him this long to test positive.

#579 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

There are people on this board who think Proud Boys are white supremacists. wink

My mistake... they're only an islamophobic, antisemitic, transphobic, street fight group whose founder said: "I love being white and I think it’s something to be very proud of.". But definitely not white supremacists. Would you be happier if we called them ethno nationalists?

And again, take one second to google Antifa and you will quickly read that they are not one centrally organised unit. They're a movement made up of disparate autonomous groups who ascribe to their central tenet of anti-fascism. I'm not denying some of them engage in violent protest, vandalism and violence, they do. But it'd be easier to have conversations about these topics if we actually talked about things for what they are, not what they aren't.

#580 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 313 weeks ago

I didn't say Antifa doesn't exist. WTF are you talking about? I said it's a political movement, of course you will have people identifying as part of it or ascribing to it. That doesn't make it a formalised group.

White supremacy is also an idea and a movement. A pretty awful one if you ask me. By all accounts Proud Boys are white supremacists. Not sure how that's really being disputed either.

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