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#571 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

Has anybody else noticed that both the WH and his lawyers are now saying that Trump can't obstruct justice, because he's POTUS? And that collusion is not a crime? Fox News is (state TV) is running with the same thing. They're expecting this in the pipeline. Soon everybody else will be saying it too.

#572 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

Vindicated for what?

We have one reporter, who put out erroneous info and a company who reprimanded him for it an apologized. That's pretty much it.

In the meantime we have two indictments, two guilty pleas and Kushner is probably next to be scooped up by Mueller.

Don't conflate, don't lie, and quit acting like a martyr. You've been wrong about nearly everything thus far.

#573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Where do Guns N' Roses Go from here? » 466 weeks ago

Walker wrote:

I think returning to Europe in 2018 with Dj instead of Slash would be the single greatest stunt Axl has ever done. It would be so ballsy, and the reactions would be hilarious.

Slightly off topic...I saw Steel Panther last week, and they kept fucking up the intro to SCOM. Too fast, too slow, off key...the lead singer says "C'mon, you sound like DJ Ashba."

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#574 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

SLC...this will go over his head because he’s just not following that closely

No doubt...

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#575 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Haha, ABC suspends the reporter for 4 weeks for pushing the story you all gobbled up.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/02/media/a … index.html

When do you start to question if you’re chasing the dragon?

And before you know who tries to alter what they said, this means Flynn isn’t “flipping” on Trump.

It’s really getting embarrassing.

Well that's the difference between real journalism and crap like Fox and other right wing outfits...they're actually concerned about accuracy.

And of course Flynn is giving assistance to Mueller, that's the entire point of the plea deal he made.

Nice attempt at a pivot though. This is pretty irrelevant in the big scheme of things.

#576 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

Look at this dummy today...his lawyers must be banging their heads on their desks.


#577 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

On some level you have to admire the realpolitiking of the republicans. There was a ruthlessness to the manner of the execution, & the unrelated amendments. It feels like a historic moment, a real victory/coup for them. The impact will be profound in shaping the immediate future. & it is progress in the most absurd sense. Seems like a crazy moment, much more than another lurch to the right, it has the scope to shape America’s future (& the corporate world’s) for generations. The sheer weight & drama of what they’ve pulled off could well be historic in its implications.


I guess I just wasn’t made for these times..

You're right. It started with Citizens United, which paved the way for a coup like this. And it is a coup by the billionaires, historic and will destroy the future of this country if it becomes law. A shift like none we've seen before, to be signed off by a criminal who colluded with a rival country to win the presidency. This is completely insane.

#578 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

But I guess they had to pass it to know what’s in it. Can we at least all agree it was a bipartisan bill since a democrat sat in a single meeting once?  I just want consistency in logical reasoning.

Not even remotely the same thing.

Also nobody ever said that.

#579 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago

If this monstrosity passes, the next move will be to attack social security and medicare. They'll come forward and say that we're looking at big deficits, and added debt, so we're going to have to make cuts. Wait and see...I guarantee it.

What we're watching tonight is a political group who owe their donors. They will pummel the lower income, and middle class in order to repay their debts. Not just now, but for years to come. Then they'll attack their safety nets next. It reminds me of the GOP going after UE benefits during the great recession. Just downright evil. But this is much worse because it will widen the gap between rich/poor and exacerbate income inequality in this country.

#580 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago


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