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#51 The Garden » S.O.P.H.I.E » 897 weeks ago
- julia (babydolls)
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Uk posters may already know about this case - this was a horrendous attack on a guy (Robert Maltby)and then on his girlfriend (Sophie Lancaster) as she tried to protect him. Sophie did not survive this attack.
"While returning home, Lancaster and Maltby were subjected to a "vicious mob attack" from "a large group of people" between 01:10 hours and 01:20 hours on Saturday, 11 August 2007, at the skate park area of Stubby Lee Park, Bacup.[2] The couple were walking home and came across a group of teenagers at the entrance to the park. The group followed them but there was no trouble until some of them suddenly assaulted Robert Maltby without provocation. When he was knocked unconscious the gang attacked Sophie Lancaster, who was trying to protect him by cradling him in her arms. A 15-year-old witness told police: "They were running over and just kicking her in the head and jumping up and down on her head." One distraught witness used a mobile to call for emergency services saying: "We need, we need an ambulance at Bacup Park, this mosher has just been banged because he's a mosher." [5] Witnesses revealed that afterwards "The killers celebrated their attack on the goths - or "moshers" - by telling friends afterwards that they had "done summat [something] good", and claiming: "There's two moshers nearly dead up Bacup park - you wanna see them - they're a right mess." [6] The injured couple were assisted by some of the teenagers who called emergency services and then stayed with the couple and tried to tend their wounds. At the trial they were commended by the judge.[7]
Police said soon afterwards it was "a sustained attack during the course of which the pair received serious head injuries and their faces were so swollen we could not ascertain which one was female and which one was male." Both were hospitalised as a result of the attack, first at Rochdale Infirmary.[1] Maltby's injuries left him in a coma with bleeding on the brain, but he gradually recovered over the next two weeks. Lancaster, in a deep coma, was moved to Fairfield Hospital in Bury, then to the Neurology unit at Hope Hospital in Salford. It became clear to hospital staff she would not recover from her injuries and on August 24, 2007 her family agreed to switch off life support and Lancaster died.[3]
Detective Supt Mick Gradwell, of Lancashire Police said it was "one of the most violent murders he had come across in his lengthy career. I do not think Herbert and Harris (accused) have recognised how violent the attack was. They have just done it without thinking but they have seemed to have enjoyed it and carried on remorselessly kicking at two very defenceless people who were unable to protect themselves because of the level of violence inflicted upon them... I am very critical of some of the parents involved. I really don't think they have taken completely seriously how repulsive this incident was..." He said that when Harris was initially interviewed about the assaults he was "laughing and joking" with his mother."
The above is from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Lancaster - there are many newspaper articles on this attack - wiki summarised it well.
Those that committed and were arrested for this crime were 5 boys between the ages of 15 and 17 (although it seems there were at least 20 in the group - not all involved directly with the attack).
I am sure there are many instances of people being attacked verbally and physically for how they dress/the music they listen to etc - which is an absolute tragedy. Everyone should be able to express their identity and musical/artistic etc preferences without the anguish of unprovoked attacks as these. I would urge people to think twice before ridiculing anyone for their choice of clothes/hairstyle/music taste etc - it can soon become a "pack mentality" and can lead to horrors as above. A special fund was set up in Sophie's memory:
S.O.P.H.I.E - Stamp Out Prejudice Hatred and Intolerance Everywhere
#52 Re: The Sunset Strip » Happy Birthday to Me remake 2009 » 897 weeks ago
I dont have netflix but will investigate - cheers for the heads up. thats an era of horror i'd like to get to know more - the more obscure ones that is.
#53 Re: The Sunset Strip » What's Your Favorite Movie Of All Time? » 897 weeks ago
All about Eve. Bette davis is my favourite actress ever.
#54 Re: The Sunset Strip » Happy Birthday to Me remake 2009 » 897 weeks ago
there's gonna be a poltergeist remake - godsakes - is nothing sacred?! Havent seen Happy Birthday... - but will source it - always looking out for old/ORIGINAL horror movies.
#55 Re: The Garden » One of my cats died » 897 weeks ago
sorry to hear that NR, i really am. hang in there.
#56 Re: The Garden » The Rant Thread » 898 weeks ago
that motherfucking "friend" who stayed with me a few weeks ago - who took it upon himself to fk around with my pc - and now upon my return from far off lands - my pc appears to be well and truely dead. thanks a lot you cunt. what kind of dick DECIDES to meddle around with your pc WITHOUT asking and install shit and fk about with it?? the kind of dick that wants to prove he is "good" with computers. total fkn moron. costing me £ and endless stress. more than a little FUCKED OFF.
#57 Re: The Sunset Strip » I love nick cave » 903 weeks ago
I love nick cave as well - his voice, his lyrics, his performances - his talent as a musician are fkn phenomenal. And as a screenwriter to boot (The Proposition) My first introduction to Nick and the Bad Seeds was the Murder Ballads album and I was just in awe of it!
His last album Abbatoir Blues etc - was incredible and the new stuff is right up there as well. I last saw him at a mini-festival in UK last year and he played a "nick cave" set, then a Grinderman set (his other band) on two days - just fantastic.
Love the interview bit above, cheers Jessica!
#58 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will you ever give up? » 903 weeks ago
julia (babydolls) wrote:I do live my life -
I hope my comment about not "waiting" on the album wasn't taken out of context. I never could stand the "live your life" thing people post at other sites. Its like speaking down to people. As long as you're not dead, you are living your life. My point(and statement) was directed at people who take this album and soap opera way too seriously, to the point of venting frustrations on other people, creating fake accounts, and other insane things. I like the various discussions here and at some other sites, and there's nothing wrong with posting your feelings. Its just a bit disturbing that a lot of people have allowed an album to consume so much of their energy and the way it breeds hostility.
Nope mate. I wouldnt and dont do the "hey , live your life, coz thats what axl says" to other people - its more in reference that I have plenty of other things that interest me musically, and other hobbies/interests to let waiting for this album become my personal point of insanity! When I first got into GnR, it was a full-on obsession where not much else outside them existed (I was 13, so there were posters to collect and plaster over my walls, scrapbooks to make, backing vocals to learn!) - but these days there is a whole breadth of other things that interest and excite me in life as well. The fake accounts and ridiculous retorts types are way too deeply into it for me as well. I want this album released 100% and I fkn love GnR - but if that doesnt happen for another few years - I wont be bald from ripping my hair out or have bloody stumps for fingers from overkill on the old pc!
#59 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will you ever give up? » 903 weeks ago
I wont give up - am in it for the long haul. The silence is frustrating as, and I do live my life - but the intensity of the shows I saw in 2006 particularly and how I feel about the new songs I've heard so far still makes them the only band I'd pay to see as many times as poss on a tour or consider going abroad to see as well.
I like the people I've befriended through Gnr - here and on HTGTH - its a world away from being the only person i knew who loved this band back in 1990 and with no internet! There are plenty of other bands that I love and get excited about their new work and live shows - but GnR have been in my life for so long now, it would be like cutting off an old friend! appreciate other peopls POVs though, the lack of news is quite gutting at this stage.
#60 Re: The Garden » I am Going to be a Mommy Again » 904 weeks ago
congrats DTJ - cool news, hope its all smooth-sailing from here on in for you both!