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#6701 Re: The Sunset Strip » Bob & Tommy Stinson | Interesting Motherfu... » 924 weeks ago
Just posted some Bash N Pop bsides in the Other Downloads section.
Tommy on lead vocals on both songs, really worth a listen. Didn't I read somewhere that Tommy is musical director for Chinese Democracy? Is that a fact, or something said tongue-in-cheek?
I think it's done to give an appearance that Axl isn't the only person running the show. Ultimately, we all know Axl is running the show anyway, so it is a puppet role at best. I guess he runs things when Axl isn't around, which is likely most of the time.
I haven't downloaded this yet - I will when I'm on my computer at home so I can check it out.
#6702 Re: Guns N' Roses » Comparing Axl Rose to the greats » 924 weeks ago
What is so special about Reznor? I'm not that impressed.
I think Reznor is looked at pretty similarly to the way people look at Cobain. Both were instrumental in bringing a style of music to the mainstream. I'm not sure either deserves as much credit as they get, but at the same time, I'm not sure they deserve to get slagged either. Anytime someone revolutionalizes something as important to society as music, they are going to be viewed as some sort of cult hero. In some ways, this ties into my earlier post about Axl and gnr, because in some ways, they changed rock music in the late 80s. We tend to over-inflate the status of people that we admire.
#6703 Re: Guns N' Roses » Comparing Axl Rose to the greats » 924 weeks ago
This is a frustrating discussion to have at a gnr fansite. All the members of the band are so overrated (which is to be expected). Original gnr was and still is my favorite band. That said, I can still look at it objectively enough to not rate Axl as the best frontman or Slash as the best guitarist. The truth is, they weren't and they still aren't.
How can you "forget resumes and everything else" when comparing people? That IS the basis for making a comparison. You cannot say "forget that he hasn't done anything productive in 10 years, Axl is still a great songwriter" or "Libertad is a good album but not great. Slash isn't as good as he was with gnr, but he's still the best." Maybe Axl WAS a great songwirter (debateable) or maybe Slash WAS an all time great (again, debateable). The sad truth is that neither of them have accomplished enough to be considered an all time great and neither of them has accomplished as much without the other as they did together. But as huge fans of the band, we make them out to be something they aren't.
It isn't my opinion that The Beatles put on high energy live shows and that's how they made a name for themselves. That's a fact. Lennon and McCartney were great songwriters, but many of their early hits were cover songs that they took to a new level with their style (not unlike Original gnr). Had Axl been able to sustain his early level of production, could he have been an all time great? Yes. Is he one of the best frontmen ever? Yes. But he isn't top 5, he isn't top 10. That isn't something to be ashamed of, it's something to be proud of. To have accomplished as little as Axl has and to even be in the conversation is a huge compliment to the guy.
#6704 Re: Management » So....whatcha think so far? » 924 weeks ago
I like the folded page in the corner. Nice addition.
#6705 Re: Guns N' Roses » Comparing Axl Rose to the greats » 924 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:russtcb wrote:Amount of musical output has nothing whatsoever with your performance on stage.
You're honestly telling me that McCartney and Lennon put on a better show then Axl in your opinion??
Yes, and it isn't even close.
...in your opinion.
That is what you asked.
#6706 Re: Guns N' Roses » Comparing Axl Rose to the greats » 924 weeks ago
Thats a bit of a stretch. The Beatles barely toured, and when they did it was with that poppy crap early in their career. I dont think a 30 minute show in a stadium consisting of songs such as "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" can compete with a two and a half hour GNR concert.
That's a misconception. They put on phenomenal shows early in their careers. They made a name for themselves with high energy live shows doing almost 100% cover songs. As they started performing their own music, the shows got shorter and eventually stopped when touring got to be too much of a hassle with all the crowds and not being able to even hear themselves play. Had The Beatles (in their prime) toured in the late 80s with technology where it was, it would have been the highest grossing tour ever.
The only rival they had at the time from a showmanship standpoint was Elvis (arguably the best performer ever). Enough said.
#6707 Re: Guns N' Roses » Comparing Axl Rose to the greats » 924 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Top 5 frontmen of all time? Wow. I don't think so. Maybe if he can release some more music over the next couple years (ha ha ha).
Lennon, McCartney, Morrison, Mercury, Jagger all rate better (and in most cases, significantly better) and that's just the guys that got their start in the 60s or early 70s.
Axl is in the top 20 for sure, but top 5 isn't being realistic.
Amount of musical output has nothing whatsoever with your performance on stage.
You're honestly telling me that McCartney and Lennon put on a better show then Axl in your opinion??
Yes, and it isn't even close.
#6708 Re: The Garden » What are your plans for Halloween? » 924 weeks ago
I will be staying home and eating all the leftover candy since nobody ever comes to our house. We live in the middle of nowhere.
#6709 Re: Management » So....whatcha think so far? » 924 weeks ago
When I say it will take some time to get going, I mean getting everybody back here. I'm very happy with where we are and I'm excited about where we're going.
#6710 Re: Management » So....whatcha think so far? » 924 weeks ago
So far so good. I'd like to see the street team brought back and maybe some more organized chats like we've done in the past.
I think it will take some time to get going, but this will be successful.
