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#681 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 304 weeks ago
James wrote:The backpedaling has officially begun....
Manchin just said "Absolutely not!" on any 2k stimulus.
That means Dems would need Republicans to help pass it.
I know what's probably going to happen....they'll keep the stimulus out of the news cycle so no one focuses on it. With Trump on the way out, they don't have to harp on it.
The Dems shit show has officially begun. They've got two years until losing the house and senate.
These cycles are so predictable. Talk a big game when you're in the minority but as soon as power is handed to you, it's obvious that you didn't support it in the first place.
Can we at least wait until Biden takes office before we criticize the 2021-23 era? If Biden is the man we all hope he is...getting things done in Washington should be something he excels in.
Also, $2000 payments are a popular idea. I think the right negotiating tool is put this on the table when negotiating about corporate liability during CO-VID and State and Local federal funding.
Manchin backpedaled a little too. Claimed that his first priority was getting the vaccine out. I don't think it's dead only because there appears to be some bi-partisan support for this, like Rubio even that sycophant Hawley appears to be for it.
#682 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
I think over the course of a couple years they should start phasing out the panels of talking heads. It isn't necessary. Put those people on podcasts or blogs if you have to.
More emphasis on news. I don't give a fuck if Biden took a drink of water or walked down a flight of stairs the wrong way. Tell me in one segment what he did that day and move on to the next story.
This isn't supposed to be entertainment. Maybe have shows like CNN's Crossfire to see a bit of political sparring.
Start showing some feel good stories and less serious news in between the Doom and Gloom.
No partisan hacks giving us the news. We never knew who the Brokaws and Cronkites voted for or hated and we didn't need to know. Report the news...then get off the screen.
No more fake outrage or propaganda. Just because one loon spazzes out on twitter doesn't mean it's worthy of global coverage.
The country will have to be eased into the transition.
Yes. This. I just sometimes want the news and not just news of the story of the moment but actual other stories of other states and/or countries. I don't need the anchors (the news ones) pontificating for five minutes with their personal thoughts (don't care if I agree or not). They are there to report the news. That means reading it correctly and conveying the facts and stories to the audience.
If you need one of those political analysts; use a non partisan one, or one respected by both sides like David Gergen or whatever or Jeff Greefield. Sometimes you don't need to give both sides, that cuts out a lot of bs.
And for fucks sake make sure that the stories are factually correct. And please do not give news stories that are rumors or just bullshit any light of day. One of the worst things that has happened to journalism is that fake news shit by people who don't like what's being reported. So they just say fake news and disparage the reporter who has worked hard and has several sources to back them up. Gives light of day to those crackpot theories/people like the Q'Anon stuff.
Who knew that one episode of the Simpsons in the 90s could be so prophetic?
#683 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
Some will call me crazy but whoever shot that woman deserves a medal. Our leaders were near that area and he wasn't allowing anyone to cross that line.
It delivered a much needed wake up call to those people. If he doesn't shoot her, it might have gotten even uglier real quick.
The guy telling all those people to break through the door is a coward. He did it from a safe distance. Someone should've caved his jaw in.
If this happens again I want all of them shot on sight.
No complaints here and you're not crazy. If some cop is telling you to stand down and has a gun pointed at you and you STILL proceed to disobey the order, well if something bad happens to you, it's your own fucking fault. There was a TMZ vid that came out today that showed her just ranting in her driving, she's a fucking loon.
These people are zombies at this point and not real bright. These idiots go maskless or wear identifying info and makes it easier for them to get arrested or get fired from their jobs. Good riddance I say.
Trump threw him under the bus minutes before the storming of the Capitol began. People were yelling out for Pence to be lynched...and he was feet away from these people before being moved.
I totally forgot about this. And this is one of the more fucked up things about yesterday. You have him basically giving out an order to hunt down his own VP just because the guy wouldn't go against the Constitution and do (Trump's bidding).
The faster we get back to a "normal" governement the better. Our country can't function with this chaos. And we look like a GIGANTIC fuckup on the world stage. I know that doesn't matter as much to others but if you're supposed to the World's superpower and one that everyone looks up to, shit like this can't and shouldn't happen.
#684 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:PaSnow wrote:They need to invoke the 25h. It's time.
There is absolutely no reason to believe trump is going to behave after his "concession" last night. Who would take the word of this man? He's shown over and over again he is not fit for office and is a pathological liar.
The 25th must be invoked and he has to be removed to ensure a peaceful transition.
Apparently when Pelosi and Schumer tried calling Pence to discuss invoking the 25th, he didn't answer his phone.
I still believe something unconventional happened last night. Trump was taken out of the loop at some point. Advisers saying he sounded insane while ranting and raving to the point they couldn't get through to him.
He also refused to call in the national guard when the storming of the Capitol happened...and advisers saying he looked to be enjoying it.
He's insane and beyond defending at this point.
That's more or less what Pence and the sane people did. They just bypassed Trump and kept him out of the loop. and acted for the good of the country. They knew he (Trump) would be preoccupied with other stuff (probably still complaining about Pence). And that's how they should deal with him for the next 13 days. The 25th got invoked unofficially in a roundabout way or whatever you want to describe it as.
#685 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
misterID wrote:The fact he got as many votes as he did, especially with Hispanics and Blacks, shows how out of touch progressives are.
This is what you're talking about today? How "out of touch" progressives are? This is mind numbing in it's detachment from reality. We have a party who are full throttle against democracy, failing to uphold their oath to the COTUS who are still contesting the election after our president incited seditious acts and you're talking about liberals and how out of touch they are. JFC, get a grip.
That and blaming the Capitol police. Yeah, they weren't good but it was nowhere near the main problem. I'm watching CNN and they are replaying those speeches by Giuliani, Trump Jr. and Trump prior to the storming of the capital (ie calling those dipshits to arms). But yeah go focus on the shoddy Capitol police.
Oh these lowlifes were taking stuff out of the Capitol building as well. Some idiot was taking a podium, another one stole a laptop from a Senator and another one stole mail or something off Pelolsi's desk.
#686 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
I think Pence made the decision along with consultation w/Pelosi and McConnell and Schumer. That a good sign.
And Trump doesn’t have to be removed, but as is now w/mostly everyone deserting him, he has no clout or power and that’s a good thing.
As far as the Trump kids running in 2024, I bet the GOP will want someone who is normal. And I get the feeling will come out + he may get indicated in NY for financial crimes. The name will be radioactive in 2024.
#687 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Gn’R related thing still excites you? » 305 weeks ago
Yeah the passage of time is a killer....and things like rotting monuments to the pop culture of your youth reminds you of your own mortality.
Same thing happens with celebrity deaths.
I also hate how time seems to move faster as you age.
I'm 45 years old....same age my mom was in the year 2000. How's that even possible?
You know how quick 20 years go by? If I make it I'll be 65, my mom and most relatives dead, and majority of celebrities from our youth dead.
In other words....we've got less than two decades left of anything resembling the world we grew up in....then it's all over. Lights go out.
If I could save time in a bottle....
It's weird and sad. Time just goes by and things seem like they just happened yesterday. Stuff like the OJ trial is closing in on the 30th anniversary and yet it seems like just yesterday to me. Trying to explain how this was a phenomenon to anyone who wasn't alive or following this is difficult. Just subtle things like that.
And yeah, Axl blew his prime by doing nothing (they all did really, except for Izzy who left on his own).
#688 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
It sounds like the 25th amendment has maybe invoked and Pence is unofficially in charge.
That's the best that can happen at this point. Whatever critcisms I have of Pence, he's an adult and won't be inciting violence and all that other stuff.
#689 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
GW Bush with the response that Trump should have put out. Don't agree with his policies but he understood what it meant to be president and how to act when you are it.
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1346954338636242946
#690 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 305 weeks ago
Do you feel happy looking at stuff like this SG? As far as Portland, etc... those pale in comparison and the fact that you're trying to deflect to that is pathethic. For starters, those were never federal or even close to overthrowing governments. Those were just protests. This is different. If you can't or won't understand it, then you are beyond help.
