Well for one I thought the syntax and style of text was exact to the way he speaks in video and print interviews, but I guess that could be fake by someone very clever.

The thing is if it wasn't axl it would have to be someone operating with Axl's blessing...as the poster also managed to convince Jarmo who is in contact with GNR management that he was axl..and that hasn't been corrected. Somehow given his views on lies in the media I think Axl would tell jarmo to pull the thread if it were fake. Plus it was refrenced on the offical site. So it either has to be axl or at worst someone acting with his authority as his mouthpiece.

What are we talking about exactly when you say that?  I don't deny there's a huge volume of people who want a reunion, or who prefer Slash to robin or anything like that. The only thing I'm denying is the concept that *everything* in GNR land is bad. Plenty of things go wrong all the time. But there are also some positive things.

it was this phrase that confused me then:

I took that to be saying that it's fake - that you could make a fake site in 5 mins. If that's not what you ment then fair enough.  Anyway I accepted that data because it came from an offical site of a respectable organisation...if there is data from an equivilant orginisation that says the CD sold amounts so low that the band could never release a follow up (which was I think what we were discussing at the time but i could be wrong) then I would accept that as well.

I'm not one of those people who wants to make everything positive no matter what. I will call it as I see it. When the band does something fucked I'm happy to say so. But I also think that just as the crap should be told as it is, so when the band does do something positive, it should be given a bit of airtime too, and I think it was neemo who posted earlier in this thread a whole list of things that are positive. That's all i'm trying to say. There is good and bad - but so many people want to see just one or the other.

Just checked this out. It's worth a listen. Some interesting stuff

1. Duff said that, wittout wanting to disrespect scott, they all felt that VR has not yet recorded it's best album, like the album they have the potential to make together. (I strongly agree with this. I enjoyed the VR records...but I feel Slash and Duff and Matt have an awesome chemestry that can be pushed farther than those records).

2. That there has been some singers that he liked but that they need to all agree. They're looking for something great not just good.

3. He showed a lot of class by once again not running down either Axl or Scott when he was given an opening to discuss if they were difficult to work with.

4. He basicly said that when people tell him something is impossible is when he likes to get it done, and that people should not imply VR is all over.

^ Good post Axlino8....

I think the problem is a lot of us, on both sides of this discussion, are clamining what it really our opinion as fact.

Actually very little of our posts are fact. It is a fact that Axl did the chats. But after that is where the opinion kicks in:

One poster might enjoy that Axl has broken his silence and consider that a positive, another might dislike the talk about slash and consider it a negative.

It is a (rumoured) fact that Axl turned down $150m for the runion. The Fact ends and opinion begins:

One person sees that as a sign of his integrity that he wont change for money, another a sign of 'brat' type behaviour that he can't just move on.

We can do it all day.

The album is released. Fact. Some people see the lack of marketing as a squandered chance and feel the record did not meet their expectations from GNR. Others look at the figures and think that #14 worldwide even with no promo, and outselling other acts, is a good thing despite whatever else.

Now the point of this site is to read the opinions of people. But where we get into conflicts is when people, of both sides,  take the part of their posts that is an opinion and start saying it's a fact. Or that someone else is right or wrong about it because of the facts. Because it's not a fact they are refering to most of the time.

we all just need to chill and remember theres a lot of ways to look at any occurance.

I think that's taking it a bit far

I mean we had a new album last year, an accouncment of a new guitarist only a few months back, and it seems rehersals are taking place with a view to a tour.

Things happen slow in GNR but they are happening...it's not like we're back to 04.