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#781 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose at his best » 231 weeks ago
Maybe this is obvious to a lot of people but I just realized Axl is always trying much harder when he is being televised. His longest Jungle opening screams were in Rio 01, VMA 02, RAR 06 and Coachella. Just listened to HOB2001 and he barely makes an effort. Ironically the rest of the song is much better when he doesn't blow his pipes on the first scream, and of course less running on that small stage. Vocals are actually the closest thing to an 80s sound he ever did in the new millennium I would say. Should definitely be released.
#782 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 231 weeks ago
Police just showed up at high school in my country. Lured 5 kids with getting the rest of the day off if they participated in a harmless exercise. The exercise was forcing them to the ground and injecting them with needles against their will. Whether the needles had a content is not mentioned.
Police department comment: "Oslo Police District are very sorry the students did not have a good experience with the training. The purpose was that this should be inspirational, exciting and provide educational value for both parties."
https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/ungdom … e/74549506
This is coming everywhere.
#783 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 233 weeks ago
The only thing that's dangerous here is government tyranny. 7 billion people living in fear because of the flu, Jesus Christ.
#784 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 237 weeks ago
Good show, good soundtrack.
#785 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 237 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:Hard School seems to be an argument they could do whatever they want regarding who gets credit, but if the song goes back to 96 then the likelihood is the original riff is from Slash, so yes who knows indeed. I doubt Dizzy actually wrote anything on it though. This GN'R being a different legal entity to NU GNR might play a part?
I guess if Slash had originally written the riff he would have said so in this interview instead of saying "Axl has all these songs and I wrote my own parts to what else was going on." There's also that press release that says it was written by Axl. It was probably one of the songs Axl was working on and had that studio band (the so-called "shadow band") record in the mid 90s and then Slash left before the then band did anything with them.
I can't imagine what Dizzy might have contributed to it either, but then he also has a credit on I.R.S (he shares 25% with Paul Tobias) - so, again, who knows.
Not necessarily. No reason for him to go into so much detail when he is trying to make a point this is mostly material made after he left. But we know from nu gnr members that some of the vault stuff came from the Slash days. There's also the checkmate/jackie chan link which dates back to Rick Rubin and Slash still being in the band. Of course that could mean "we're mostly doing Axl's material" which he said around that time, so he doesn't have to be a writer. He sure is now though!
#786 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 237 weeks ago
Hard School seems to be an argument they could do whatever they want regarding who gets credit, but if the song goes back to 96 then the likelihood is the original riff is from Slash, so yes who knows indeed. I doubt Dizzy actually wrote anything on it though. This GN'R being a different legal entity to NU GNR might play a part?
#787 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 237 weeks ago
Do we know for a fact that Pitman did not write anything on Absurd? The riff comes from his instrument so I assume he wrote at least that part. But maybe it's enough for them to just erase his work, cover it and say Slash wrote it? Because I don't see much actual writing Slash did on that track.
If they can do that then the inclusion of Dizzy is probably just a nod for long term service. Like he's a real member who gets a cut. The way they did it on AFD and UYI. Every member gets a cut of each song. I don't think they are limiting themselves in any way on the material they choose.
#788 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 237 weeks ago
If Absurd and Hard Skool is anything to go by, it looks like they have picked songs that were written mainly by Axl (and/or Dizzy, who is still in the band) and could be redone to such an extent that they wouldn't have to give writing credits to NuGnR members - and, on the other hand, Slash and Duff could get a credit. If that's a pattern (and I think it is) and not just a coincidence, I suppose songs like Atlas and Perhaps fall in the same category, but I don't see how songs that were (instrumentally) written entirely by former members could fit in. Because there couldn't be an album with Slash/Duff and the songwriting credits on ASCAP and the similar databases being all Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, etc. - they can't get away just by putting "written by Guns N' Roses" in the liner notes, as these databases are in the public domain. I also don't think Slash and Duff would have agreed to do it otherwise.
So there may be an album of "leftovers," but not necessarily exactly the same that was intended to be released as "CD2".
The argument against this theory is that the vast majority of instrumentals must have been written by people other than Dizzy and Axl. If Slash says "a bunch of stuff" that suggests more than just a part. And what about Paul? His fingerprints are all over those sessions. Do you think Axl would accept just cutting him out? He's still "a member" of sorts is he not?
#789 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 237 weeks ago
Well, Beta did say Absurd was on the album…right?
She said it was on the "CD" whatever that means. Could just be referring to the EP.
#790 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash: GNR has not written any new music, everything completed is CD 2 » 238 weeks ago
Merck said it in 2006. Axl had to find his muse in order to write music. Maybe she's filed a restraining order.
This whole thing is just running on inertia and cash. If we get "new" music it will be whatever Axl managed to record 15+ years ago.
