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#791 Re: Guns N' Roses » Something is up with Pitman » 559 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

Watching Pitman from O2 2012 he is wearing a fucking mid drift shirt. He adds subbassom every fucking song. It buries shit in the mix and sounds too mushy. He needs to go.

FRANK CANNOT PLAY BROWN STONE AT ALL. horrible.

Smoking Guns wrote:

Pitman is a poor man's teddy zig zag that knows synth and pro tools. Nothing more. Remember that.

Dude, just can it already.

What the fuck is "subbassom every song". Unless you mean "sub bass on". Sub bass brings out low frequency sound in the mix and makes it more audible. i.e. the opposite of burying.

Frank cannot play Brownstone* at all. I hear a different drum sound, now that I am looking for it after checking out a few youtube sounds, that said he isn't PLAYING it any different, just the drum setup is a different sound. Whether that his preference, his drum tech's influence or something that Axl or one of the guy's in charge of marhsalling rehearsals or sorting the mix (Tommy or Pitman respectively) prefer I couldn't say or know.

Pitman is a poor man's zig zag...

Here is a photo of a harmonica:

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and here is a photo of a professional Pro Tools setup

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One is vastly more complex than the other. Care to guess which. Let's look at the CVs of Zig Zag and Pitman:

Zig Zag has done the odd harmonica or piano recording for some musicians and been a touring hand for others.

Christ Pitman has:
Lusk - Recording, production, mixing, mastering, lead vocals, multi-instrumentation in this Grammy-nominated band in 1996-97.
Tool - In 1994/95, Pitman toured with them and, in 1996, played synths on the song "Third Eye".

Two notable mentions from a production, sound engineering and performance POV. From a purely technically POV:

"Pitman has also done sound design and electronic work for Arturia software synthesizers, A Designs Audio [Peter Montessi], Waves Plugins, Waldorf Synthesizers, Apple's Logic Audio, Digidesign Plugins, Moog Synthesizers, Celemony's Melodyne, Ableton Live, Roland USA, Korg Music, Serge Synthesis [SMS], PlanB Synthesis [Peter Grenader], [Axel Hartmann] Neuron Synthesis, and Symbolic Sounds Kyma, Mandala Drums, Steven Slate Drums, Native Instruments."

In short the guy knows his shit and is a much more valuable asset than a harmonica player.


I'm sorry to crap on your memories of 1991 and I can understand why the old band has a special place for you... 

But I can't understand why you hate some of these old guys with such a passion, and your dismissal of what they could bring to the table is uninformed. I'm getting pretty tired of having to read this dumb fanboy shit about how awful these guys are and "how amazing it would be if Slash told Fortus to sit the fuck down, and produced the fabled VR album that never was from his back pocket and if Axl just came over it in an instant." It's just stupid.

#792 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 559 weeks ago

I fail to see how disrespect was shown... in fact being excited about playing the show imo is respectful.

#793 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 559 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

The free pass you guys are giving this guy is pathetic. And I hate it when he refers to GNR as "Guns" and I cringe when Eddie Trunk says it too. That is an intimate word to me and I think only Slash, Axl, Duff can refer to the band as Guns. Guns to me relates to a gang, a posse, a group of pals... When I look at pitman, I see that 40 year old living in his parents basement. That tool album he describes as out of control amazing still isn't out. He sounded like Bach there. Total Cheese shit. "Hey bro, I am Guns, we are reuniting, we were cool enough to let Slash and Duff hang with us. They can finally feel what we have felt since 2000 being in the most dangerous band in the world. Richard is going to teach Slash all the songs ok CD so we can still play them live. Kind of like how Tommy taught Duff. Duff and Slash will be happy. I am glad we were able to help them".

Maybe the "Guns" camp kind of sides with me on this one....  Basically, "Pitman, know your role, son".

Not sure why you have such a hate boner for the guy... what did he ever do to you apart from tour with one of your favourite frontman for over a decade and put together the teaser trailer for this tour you are so excited for. If he was under the impression he was/is involved can you blame him for being excited?

#794 Re: Guns N' Roses » Something is up with Pitman » 559 weeks ago

This is weird. He appears to be fairly good friends with Axl (they seem to hang out frequently) and he put together the teaser that aired before Star Wars, so he seemed like a lock tbh.

Again, it would be great if they would just do a press release explaining who is and isn't in the band now. All this cloak and dagger bullshit, silencing of people involved with the project (in the band or not, he's been in the studio with Axl working on mixes and did the promo so he's involved in some capacity) plus last minute talk show cancellations are all terrible warning signs for this whole thing going up in smoke as per usual.

#795 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 560 weeks ago

At this point given Axl's track record Pitman, Fortus, Ferrer & Reed being in the band increases the chance of new music being released and for that I am thankful of any involvement any of them may have. In that regard they can say what the want. Guns is just short for Guns N' Roses and if they are involved in that group I understand them using the shorthand and wouldn't get too worked up about their usage... or their involvement.

#796 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 560 weeks ago

EDIT: DELETED, Accidentl double post.

#798 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 560 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

The free pass you guys are giving this guy is pathetic. And I hate it when he refers to GNR as "Guns" and I cringe when Eddie Trunk says it too. That is an intimate word to me and I think only Slash, Axl, Duff can refer to the band as Guns.

"Intimate word"... dude chill. Guns is short hand for "Guns N' Roses". Like it or not Chris Pitman is in the band, and even produced the teaser trailer that aired before the biggest film of 2015 in the US.

He's been in the band since in the late 90s and has worked with Axl for the past 15+ years. I don't understand why you feel the strength of emotion you do to another human being who's greatest sin in your eyes is playing in a rock band you like. I can't understand why any fully grown adult would...

#799 Re: Guns N' Roses » Same Old, Same Old » 560 weeks ago

If this is same old, same old no doubt we'll get a scenario that has happened in the past where an entire festival lineup is streamed apart from GnR's performance...

#800 Re: Guns N' Roses » Official Statement coming from Guns camp tonight. » 560 weeks ago

apex-twin wrote:

We went knee-deep into what CD2 was supposed to be here.

The stuff Tommy considered non-consequential may be more EDM-tinged.

Like this. 10

In the Dexter chats, Axl said the song now has "a lot of guitars, lots of different drum the chorus is gone."

A world of difference. Hopefully, evader can put his remix back up for comparison.

https://soundcloud.com/matias-millalonc … fragmentos

Go to 1:06 for Oh My God, and 2:28 for silkworks. Only clips. Came out a while back.

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