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#841 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 749 weeks ago
I hate to sound mean but Cena getting injured/leaving for a few months might be the best for the long term future of the WWE. It might actually cause them to write something interesting for once.
I really wish he'd go on a holiday, I'm sure they'd be willing to give him time off if he really asked. Since he came back from that injury for the 2008 Royal Rumble he's never been away for more than 2-3 weeks tops. It would be great for Cena to go away for a while and come back with a refreshed character, not even a heel turn just something different. He's been cutting the same promos since around 2005/06 now and it's stale as hell.
I actually like Cena, he seems likeable and he can go in the ring and have good matches: his matches with Punk are evidence of that- and no Punk was not carrying him, they both pulled their weight. I also recall some good matches with Ziggler that I've seen of him. I just wish they'd use him better because now the WWE Championship or World Heavyweight Title haven't main evented a PPV since TLC and it's really devaluing them because Cena is being booked above the title: It's now the case that you haven't made it until you've won the title and beat Cena on PPV.
#842 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dublin, Ireland, May 17th » 750 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:Kind of regretting not getting a ticket now but again I still would have been eating Tesco Value beans for 3 weeks if I had. Looks like it was a damn good show though.
i dont regret not going.
it does look like a good show.
but i'd have been spending 70euro to hear 3 songs that are different.
it is a good setlist, that's not my point.
just it still doesn't seem worth it now it's passed. it's the same experience i had before only they're* charging more for it.
tho having said that, this week 70euro is like £30 so maybe it's not all that expensive............
£50 over here and I've still never seen GNR, if they had been just a bit cheaper I would have gone.
#843 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dublin, Ireland, May 17th » 750 weeks ago
Kind of regretting not getting a ticket now but again I still would have been eating Tesco Value beans for 3 weeks if I had. Looks like it was a damn good show though.
#844 Re: Guns N' Roses » your setlist.........again » 750 weeks ago
Realistic Ideal Set 22 Songs, no new ones
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Better
5. Down On The Farm
6. Chinese Democracy
7. Don't Cry
8. Live and Let Die
9. Double Talkin Jive
10. You Could Be Mine
11. November Rain
12. Street of Dreams
13. Civil War
14. Sweet Child O' Mine
15. Catcher In The Rye
16. Patience
17. Nightrain
18. There Was A Time
19. Dust N' Bones
20. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Encore
21. Estranged
22. Paradise City
Unrealistic Incredibly Long Set, 31 Songs, No New Songs
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr Brownstone
4. Better
5. Pretty Tied Up/Bad Obsession
6. 14 Years
7. Down On The Farm/Riad and the Bedouins
8. Chinese Democracy
9. Don't Cry
10. Live and Let Die
11. Double Talkin' Jive
12. Rocket Queen
13. You Could Be Mine
14. November Rain
15. Street of Dreams/If The World
16. Civil War
17. Locomotive
18. Ain't It Fun/I.R.S.
19. Sweet Child O' Mine
20. Catcher In The Rye/This I Love
21. Patience
22. You're Crazy (Acoustic)
23. Nightrain
24. There Was A Time
25. Dust N' Bones
26. Hair Of The Dog/Perfect Crime
27. Madagascar/Scraped
28. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Encore
29. Estranged/Coma
30. Oh My God/Shackler's Revenge
31. Paradise City
Set with new songs
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. New Song 1
3. It's So Easy
4. Mr Brownstone
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Live and Let Die
7. Sweet Child O'Mine
8. Rocket Queen
9. Shackler's Revenge
10. New Song 2
11. November Rain
12. You Could Be Mine
13. Think About You
14. New Song 3
15. Double Talkin' Jive
16. Nightrain
17. Knockin' On Heavens Door
Encore
18. Estranged
19. Civil War
20. New Song 4
21. Paradise City
#845 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Blood in the Water" (NEW idea discussion) » 751 weeks ago
Some of you guys get really angry about silly stuff... on the internet.
I like the section before the vocals, that stuck in my head more than anything. As always, I'm curious to hear new songs but there's not much to talk about until then.
#846 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Blood in the Water" (NEW idea discussion) » 751 weeks ago
It sounds like the orchestration from Prostitute is on that.
#847 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Blood in the Water" (NEW idea discussion) » 751 weeks ago
I missed this completely, how legit was it sounding?
#848 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 751 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:Well that Lesnar match was something. Great atmosphere for it and Brock looked like a beast despite the loss. That shit where he was running and launching himself of the steps reminded me of how beast he is.
Also Punk Vs Bryan for Over The Limit should be a damn good match if these guys are given the proper amount of time I'm sure they can do something special.
That's my biggest problem with the WWE right now and the reason I just can't get into it.
They little have no clue what they're doing with the material and the whole thing just seems to have no focus, no direction, and it's just damn hard to have any interest.
The whole period right now reminds me of the mid-90's WWE period, which despite the HBK/Taker, young HHH on the roster (which WWE does NOT have right now), was considered by many a dark period, but McMahon literally had no clue what to do with it. It didn't seem to grab direction until DX exploded in '97 and eventually Austin in '98.
It's very hard to watch WWE right now.
Wrestling seems to go through strong focused periods and then transition periods- WWF/WWE seems to anyways.
You have your Hulk Hogan, Hulkamania Era in the 80s until early 90s.
Then in the mid-nineties you get the "New Generation" era where you've got Sid, Hart, HBK, Diesel and Taker on top. This was a transititon period.
Then eventually like you said DX and Austin explode and we get the Attitude Era which runs until about 01/02. You have Austin, Rock, HHH, Taker, Mankind on top, later being joined by Angle, Big Show and Jericho.
Then it's a transition period again. They start to lose their two biggest draws Austin and Rock and try to start building new stars like Orton, Cena, Edge and Batista. They build up Brock quickly, obviously expecting him to be around for years as one of the next top guys. Main eventers in this era are Triple H, Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guererro, Chris Benoit, JBL, Taker and Shawn Michaels. Randy won his first world title during this time period but he quickly got phased out of that scene. Oh and Goldberg appeared for a year at some point. They basically tried a lot of stuff with lots of short term planning to try and get new top guys quick.
Cena Era. Later PG Era. Guys on top are Cena, Orton, Batista, Edge, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker and Rey Mysterio (kinda). You've got guys who break the glass ceiling at times during this period like Punk, Jeff Hardy, Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler but none of them become established until either later/never/not happened yet.
Transition era 3. Hard to say just now but I suppose the top established guys are Cena, Orton and Punk with guys like Sheamus, Bryan, Del Rio, Henry and Miz a step below that. You've got guys like Jericho and Christian who are now established as guys who can get upsets and win the big one but aren't going to be a top guy. Oh plus Rey is still around but expect a big depush for him in the near future as he just got suspended for violating the wellness policy for a second time so his return has now been pushed back around 60 days.
#849 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 752 weeks ago
Well that Lesnar match was something. Great atmosphere for it and Brock looked like a beast despite the loss. That shit where he was running and launching himself of the steps reminded me of how beast he is.
Also Punk Vs Bryan for Over The Limit should be a damn good match if these guys are given the proper amount of time I'm sure they can do something special.
#850 Re: Guns N' Roses » On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings » 754 weeks ago
You don't care about a new album? Or are you just thinking short term? That's really the only thing I hope to get from him at some point.
I care about a new album but short term I don't see that happening. If I want new songs played of course I want a new album.
