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#9081 Re: Guns N' Roses » Regarding the chat room » 934 weeks ago
oppss....sorry to anyone I've accidently snubbed then!
#9082 Re: Guns N' Roses » Differences in the "old" new leaks.... » 934 weeks ago
A lot has been said about Slash vs Bucket.
I think we should distinguish between technical ability where bucket owns most guitarists and creative suitibility where slash owns. Yes...slash can't play "Notthinham Lace" but you know what....bucket would NEVER have written the AFD and UYI riffs and melodies even if he's been in the band back then either.
James was making fun of Slash's "yesterdays style solo in rhiad kinda thing, sure - slash always does huge bends with blues notes....but someone could easily give shit to buckethead for his obsession with the killswitch and love of the octave pedal...both of which would have ruined estranged.
Bottom line is - they're both great guitatists for totally different reasons. And sadly neither of them is in the band 
Going back to what was said earlier, it will be interesting to see what BBF adds to these songs, as the key element the leaks have always lacked is a guitar 'vision' i think.
People will hate me for this, but I see it like this:
Slash is a fucking amazing guitarst...but he sticks to the one blues-rockk style mostly...as well he should because he owns everyone else when in that style...but it became obvious that Axl wanted to try recording some "my world" style tracks outside that box...and so started messing with the idea of bringing in people to play parts in different styles..ala paul huge etc....Slash found this insulting (and was sick of the BS as listed in his book) and left the band.
Axl replaces Slash with robin, a guy who has a more industrial flavour, but limited skills in the blues department. He writes some more modern sounding tracks (better), and does a couple of solos that are slashesque (blues). But he has limitations - (better outro, robins solo in TWAT both sound like a slash imitation) and he butchers the old songs. You arn't going to be writing a coma with robin around.
So axl get's in bucket. A guitarist with far more technical ability and speed than either robin or slash. Bucket adds some shred stuff, and is also good for adding to the industrial style and experemental songs cos of his primus style stuff. But I'm not sure if he would have added a lot of the classic rock songs..except for a solo here and there (irs, twat).
So axl brings in BBF, a guy who can also shred, but with more traditional roots. so it will be interesting to see what he adds.
I mean songs like IF the World demonstrate to me there is no guitar vision for these tracks. it's like Axl writes a cool melody then just hires a bunch of people to come in and see what they can do with it.
Basicly...GNR is a session musican studio band these days...and one that doesn't release albums yet sadly...
#9083 Re: Guns N' Roses » Differences in the "old" new leaks.... » 934 weeks ago
You cant say Slash wouldnt be intimidated by the CD lineup because the guy couldn't even work with Zakk Wylde. Zakk is fucking great, but I doubt he was going in the directions BH took this project.
I don't think slash was intimidated by Zakk, they're friends and have played around together a bit.
I think it's a question of differing musical vision.
Slash operates from a 1970s rock...led zep..aerosmith...etc perspective where you have 2 guitar parts - a rhythm part to set the key and act as a foil for a lead part to pull melodies and solo over.
Having three guitarists in the band is not compatiable with that...for that style you can't have two lead guitarists.
If Zakk and Slash and Gilby were in the band one of them would be doing nothing of use at any one stage.
I find it's similar in the modern band. Having BBF, Richard and Robin play a song like "brownstone" with 2 distinct guitar parts adds nothing.
What it comes down to is Axl basicly wanted to add session musicans to the songs to get different styles in different places. And other than play the one solo where they are needed they do nothing. This is true of bucket and robin too. The parts everyone loves of bucket...are usually 20 seconds of massive shred solos inserted before a chorus (better) or over a scream (IRS)....the rest of the time he doesn't have much to do.
#9084 Re: Guns N' Roses » Differences in the "old" new leaks.... » 934 weeks ago
I just got through listening to Madagascar all at once! I deserve a cookie! I've been trying since it leaked but damn if I can't keep myself from stopping and switching to a good song after a minute or so. But today I made it! Now I can delete the file in peace.
See that's what I find interesting about these tracks. The mixed reaction. Like from the first time I heard maddy I loved the song - and especially the first 2 verses. The solo that I know everyone else on here loves never did much for me, so i usually drift off or listen to the quotes in the middle bit.....
So this is a good example of the mixed reactions out there. Some love the song, some hate it, some like bits of it.
#9085 Re: Guns N' Roses » Differences in the "old" new leaks.... » 934 weeks ago
The division is just an indication of how shitty the songs really are, the majority of the "positive" posts about them are only positive because BH is on them. The reality is that the "depth" that James refers to is just a result of adding shit because there really is no depth to the song itself. They can't stand on their own, so the result is add enough layers so that nobody notices the songs aren't very good. It didn't work.
I see what you're saying and respect your view but i'm not sure I agree.
I think the reason there is such vairance in opinion is because the style is varied. Like with AFD it's all hard rock and if you don't like that kind of thing your're not going to like the album. New GNR leaks are very different from each other in style. You have:
*the industrial rock type stuff: silkworms, rhiad, omg etc
*the traditional stuff: the blues, catcher, maddy, twat
*the hybrid stuff: better, Chinese Democracy
*the other genre stuff: If the world, Unknown Song#2
I think what we'll find is its rare for people to like all of these. If someone digs the industrial they might find the traditional bland...and those that like the traditional might find the industrial jumbled. People who want to headbang will not enjoy the "other genre" stuff, yet those will speak to crossover people who maybe don't like all of the heavier tracks. Meanwhile the hybrid stuff will likely have parts that appeal to everyone, but each of us would always want to remove one passage or tinker with something. (eg the "masturbating robot bubbles" in better is not usually popular to the people that dig the guitar riffs etc).
So i think the fact that all the songs are not uviversally loved speaks to the fact that they change different styles and genres so much, rather than them being naturally good or bad songs.
#9086 Re: Guns N' Roses » Song #2 (Unknown Title) » 934 weeks ago
If the lyrics in the "new song lyrics" thead are correct this song HAS to be prostitute.
I mean "Love That You've Crippled For Fortune And Fame" and "Ask Yourself, What I Would Do
To Prostitute, Myself, To Live With Fortune And Shame" - pretty much seals the deal that the song is prostitute to me.
Then again...i guess a lot of the leaks have simialr themes.
Also...when he says "to prostitute myself" it really doesn't sound liek the word prostitute to me. Like the metre and timing of the word fits 100% with that...but it really sounds like theres sounds that arn't in that word - like a "down" style word...but then again..axl often pronounces things a bit differently than i'd expect...like how he says "chains" in better.
I fucking love this song now anyway. It's amazing. Simple yet beautiful.
#9087 Re: Guns N' Roses » two more leaks coming from mygnr » 934 weeks ago
It may well be BS...but i tell you what that description of Zodiac gets me all wet 
Immagine...AFD rocker guitars....axl screaming....a bucket shred solo worthy of jorden, feedback, more screams....
If it exists I want it!!!!
#9088 Re: Guns N' Roses » Questions about the leaks. » 934 weeks ago
Yeah i'm sure his voice has changed since about 1995 or whenever the vanishing act began. I hated the 2000-2 voice live on those old songs, but the higher pitch works in these new tunes i think.
#9089 Re: Guns N' Roses » Questions about the leaks. » 934 weeks ago
It's interesting the different opinions people have...I really like the high screams and pitch in the songs and would be disapointed if they all came out low in the studio version.
#9090 Re: Guns N' Roses » Song #2 (Unknown Title) » 934 weeks ago
Does anyone else find this song insanely addictive? The first time i heard it I was just kinda like "Umm...wierd" but now I can't stop singing it and playing it! It's great.
