I agree...although AFD will always be one of the most important albums in rock history, I think the Illusion albums and tour are what many casual fans associate with GNR. They think Axl in bike pants and big outfits and they think massive stadium rock and they think November Rain.

November Rain, like Sweet Child of Mine before it is one of those cross-over songs that allows people that arn't into metal and hard rock - the pop people - to get into the band...especially girls.

YCBM is a fucking awesome song too.....it was huge being with t2 to people of my age...but its such a fantastic hard rock song...

Aussie - where was that taken? Looks like my kinda party!

Ok...I got:

*Bring Em Back Alive - Audioslave. It's actually one of my favourite audioslave tracks so i'm pretty pleased with that choice.

* Wild Wild West - Will Smith.  Although i wouldn't consider myself a rap fan in general the occasional Will Smith tune is kinda a guilty pleasure for a guitar head like me! this isn't one of his best ever but its ok.

* Miseducation - Frameshift. This is an album I got cos Baz was on it, and I'll be honest...i haven't really listened to it all that much..i got it at the same time as a few other CDs and it kinda got burried in my collection....its a mix of baz' awesome vocals with some more progressvie style metal. Its hard for me to adjust to it cos i'm more of a hard rock or classic 80s metal kinda guy..and this is somewhere in between. Listening to the track now..its ok...but not as cool as Angel Down style stuff to me.

*Bust a Move - Young MC. hahah...for all your 80s classic needs. For some reason my itunes random seems to pick this song more often that randomness would suggest...

*Sailing - Rod Stewart. Got this after I heard Axl's cover as I wanted to hear the orginial. Its definately a beautiful song - but I must say I loved the really high pitch that axl sang it in more...i'd love to hear a studio version of that.

*Essence - Steve Vai. This is on a double album of his I got. To be honest i've never heard it before I must always skip it. I really love certain songs from vai when he plays in particualr style. But all instrumental songs tend to bore me except when they're in a style of guitar playing I really like. Shame it didnt pic one my my favourtite vai tracks and I could rant about that.

*Kiss - Prince. Great song...love the vocals and the funky guitar..just never ages.

*Dog - Whitesnake. Whitesnake are an interesting band, awesome guitar work...and a singer with awesome vocal range almost ala Baz and Axl...but sadly terrible songwriting and lyrics. This is one of their new tracks with the new lineup - who have truely scarely skills on guitar. This is about what i expect  from a whitesnake tune...kinda catchy, purile lyrics with puns that that sound like they were written by a 13yo..yet impressively sung....but with guitar solos so hard they make you want to quit guitar and worship.

Anyway that's prob enough for now! We have to leave before it picks a Disney Princess Christmas Album song... LOL.....

Yeah I should add that I don't have anything against him as a person either. At the end of the day we're both GNR and music fans and that's what counts. But i much prefer conversations here I think

It's a shame what's happened to that place. It used to be a good site.

When you look at the the censorship, the Slash bashing, and all the rest you can see a pattern. Jarmo is a man afraid of loosing his contact with the band, and so he will say or do anything in order to have the apperance of total loyality to axl. No matter how irrational or incorrect.

Example: He told me that the Chinese Democracy australian tour was not being promoted as a Chinese Democracy tour. All while i was holding a ticket in my hands that read "Chinese Democracy" for a melbourne Show!!!

Thankfully we have this site now, where people can be fans...but don't feel the need to lie to themselves to be such.