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#921 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

John Sununu??? That hack job? HAHAHAHAHAHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Look outside the rightwing bubble, dudes.

He didn't even say anything anyway.

#922 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:


And a million impeachment types suddenly went silent

Again, what does that even mean?

He's doing the same thing you are: Attacking a false premise. IE, the reporter(s) are clinging to conspiracy theories and have arrived at some conclusion, which isn't the case. They are reporting on the investigations, and breaking news stories (which happen almost daily at this point.)

Context is everything. Trump defenders dismiss each new story as if it's the only one. When in fact we've got dozens of issues piling up on top of one another.

#923 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

^^^

Yes. This was specifically to keep our government excluded from their communication with Russia. He also wanted to set it up in a Russian diplomatic facility to ensure our government was completely excluded.

I mean...come the fuck on.

#924 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

They need to move on from that one because it is a non issue. The US always has secret backdoor channels to the Russians. The Kennedys did as well. I never heard of cries for impeachment and that was during an insane chapter of the cold war.

I suppose the issue at hand is exactly WHAT the channel is/was for. If so, push that angle. Instead its, "OMG!!! White House has channels to Russia!!"

Who gives a rat's ass.
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Unbelievable James.

#925 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

Just read an article about the first confirmed case of Russians and Republicans colluding to influence an election.

It was a House of Representatives election in Florida last fall.

Some computer program called "Gucifer 2.0"

Maybe someone can post it.

From the Wall Street Journal. Love the quote at the end. What a sack of shit that guy is. As long as it hurts your political opposition, who cares f it's from the Russians?

How Alleged Russian Hacker Teamed Up With Florida GOP Operative

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-allege … 1495724787

#926 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

Breaking from NYT:

Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch once close to President Trump’s former campaign manager, has offered to cooperate with congressional committees investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election, but lawmakers are unwilling to accept his conditions, according to congressional officials.

#927 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

This is an extraordinary development. In what he was seeking out and the stupidity behind it.

#928 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

This WaPo report is something else:

Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.

#929 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

Trump's behavior at NATO defied anything I could imagine. It was a great day for Putin. Sometimes I almost believe there really is a pee pee tape hanging over his head. How else do we explain this?

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