Anyone who isn't believing what Randall is saying should really read the book I mentioned earlier.

Its called "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists" - by Neil Strauss.

it is NOT a how-to-do-it guide - its Neil's autobiography in the pickup community.

Basicly he was a nerd author who stumbled into some of this stuff by accident and then studied their techniques and became a guru himself.

It was given to me as a gift, and when i read the back of the book i thought "what i load of bullshit" but decided to read it anyway as it sounded funny (and it mentioned he bumps into various celebraties and i was interested to see how it all developed). But since reading his book, its clear to me that this stuff is out there and real and exists, and it would appear works.

While I agree with Jessica that it may not help you live together for years..it will give a guy a chance to show a women he is a good guy when that woman may not normally give him time of day.

It sounds crazy but its really not. Men are turned on by certain things, and so are women. Its just pushing those buttons.

Do you disagree that 90% of men would be turned on if a woman walked into the room, walked up to him and began to undress? No because men are pre-programed to be attracted visually to females. Most men anwyay. Likewise there are things (mostly mental and behaviours) that will attract 90% of women and gain their initial interest.

Facinating...i just finished reading the book "The Game" by Style or whatever his name is in the seduction community detailing his real life story with the community.

I was blown away as i had no idea this stuff existed.

I should make it my 2008 resolution to get into this stuff, as i've spent too many years alone, but I doubt i've got the balls for it to be honest!

I think its more a cultural thing.

While i agree "It don't really matter" or "it do not really matter" is bad grammer....that kind of incorrect usage is quite common in English in some communities.

To me its much like how many people say "I could care less", when what they really mean is "I couldn't care less", its just one of those things

Yeah me too. I never owned a laserdisc player cos they were pricey here. Some friends of my parents got one in the end...but they mostly had opera stuff and so that didn't have the appeal.

The day i realised I was a huge nerd was seeing Aliens on laserdisc and CRT projector set-up one day....I knew I had to have those toys

Its kinda like the first time you see the opposite sex nude...and suddenly you know why your alive

LMAO