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#941 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Revolver interview with Axl » 648 weeks ago

I'll give you one thing about DJ being full of shit... setlists. He's such a fucking liar about those damn things.

#942 Re: Guns N' Roses » Opinion Piece: Why Izzy Stradlin Was the Heart of Guns N' Roses » 648 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I don't buy that bullshit for a friggin second. Alan is using the mythology of Izzy to push his version of GN'R history (Axl's the bad guy) and the fans love for Izzy as Mr. Cool (which he is) but it's total jive. Sorry. Izzy was a hardcore junky, no one wanted to put up with him, including Slash. Recording with him was a nightmare, Slash had to fill in a lot of his parts. He was not reliable in the least. And he played with GNR during 93 also. He also forgets to mention that "Iz" and Axl play together now frequently, that he can obviously "deal with" Axl having buried the hatchet YEARS AGO, and it was BOTH Axl and Izzy that formed GN'R. Not one or just the other. And of course, Alan somehow is the good guy and visionary of this band. Total. Complete. Revisionist. Horseshit.

According to Izzy, he sat back and watched to see how much of a circus the RRHOF was going to be.


Quoted for truth.



Alan Niven... my boy... you made one statement too many, and this one buried you. Alan Niven knows fucking nothing. This Classic Rock article proved to me that he has had basically NO contact with anyone in GN'R since 1990. He might see Slash & Duff & Steven here and there, but the heartbeat that is the band (Axl) he hasn't seen, nor does he have any contacts.

Before, I thought Niven might have some legitamacy to his statements of the past, and his hatred of Axl seemed authentic and warranted. But just as the old saying goes, "controversy creates cash", Niven has now officially boxed himself into a corner of a fiction writer, and banished to the land of Mick Wall by myself, despite Niven being there at the inception of GN'R.

Let's bottom line it, 'cause that's what I do... still...

Niven hates Axl
Why?
Because Niven always hated Axl
Why?
Because Niven wanted to be the dictator of GN'R and Axl was headstrong + unpredictable, which threatened Niven's role
When the 1990 contract re-negotiation happened, then Niven got canned, Axl outfoxed Niven
Point on the board for Axl
Niven claims "I would've never let Axl produce the signing of the band name over to him"
Why?
Because Niven wanted the control of the band, not any actual fucking band members
Why?
Because Niven was a fucking manager and all managers are scum sucking, blood thirsty sharks that care about money first, power second, pussy or boy ass third, and everything else who gives a fuck
Why?
Because that's what they do
But not Alan Niven
Puhleeeze, he got in the business because of art?
This is a guy who's biggest artist in his stable was Great White, and nobody else
GN'R was a HUGE coup that no one saw coming, despite Alan's claims otherwise
Alan didn't get to be on the Illusion rocket when it took off, when by 1991-92 everyone on the planet saw the dollar signs that old GN'R brought
Niven didn't get to be there, and he's hated Axl ever since
So he'll make up or talk about anything he can to still stay in that spotlight
Why?
Because he introduces himself as, "Hi, i'm Alan Niven, I used to manage Guns N' Roses. Remember them? They were popular about 25 years ago"
What have you done since Mr. Niven?
"Slept and fed the cat"
Well thanks for that knowledge, i'll let Wikipedia know to look out for the old powerful source of the truth known as Alan goddamn Niven



Niven's version of the RNRHOF events is so fucking skewed, such a work of pure fiction, that I personally think it borders on libel WITH MALICE. Izzy is Mr. Cool in Niven's world, but yet Niven ignores Izzy's involvement with Axl pre & post-RNRHOF, so much to the point, that based on ACTUAL history (not Niven's), Izzy "Mr. Kewl" must spend alot of hours with Axl's cock in his mouth, far more than any dealer on a Saturday night with Steven Adler, because there's no way Izzy is still Mr. Cool, blowing off the RNRHOF cause Axl no-showed on dinner/meeting, then turned around two farts later and played with him in London.

Only way Niven's version of the events works, is to completely cancel out and negate any of Izzy's coolness, to prove Izzy is a money-whore and Axl's bitch-to-do-thy-bidding at anytime Axl deems fit, because he did play with Axl, and basically flipped the bird to the Hall, and specifically Slash, Duff & Steven. Indiana phoevah!


Izzy is Mr. Cool. He always will be, which is why Alan Niven is a lying douche. His version of the events don't even make fucking sense and don't even add up to what actually took place. Again, he totally ignores Axl's behavior and I think based on this article that A) Izzy is MORE unpredictable than Axl. Even if Izzy told Niven this word-for-word, Izzy is a total flake. Something could've happened, and the next day Axl explained and all is well. Who knows--it's Izzy. B) Niven is so desperate to continue telling stories about GN'R, now he's just making stuff up about an inner circle he hasn't been in since Aqua Net had record profits.

#943 Re: Guns N' Roses » Is sorry the most wasted potential song from CD » 648 weeks ago

Sorry doesn't have any real issues with it, other than the shock that Axl when soulful with his voice and words, when the song itself has Grunge or Alice In Chains written all over it. The entire structure of the song, easily could've been on the recent Black Gives Way To Blue or The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here.


Lyrically I think the song represents Axl in a more straight-forward manner, because that's the context of the song, not such much lyrical laziness. It just seems more simplistic for a writer that is more so intelligent and wordy that you can't stand it sometimes. Axl says a lot and yet nothing at the same time is borderline legendary of him.

My only complaint with Sorry was that it I wish Axl would've sung in a lower register, with more of a depressive attitude to suit the tone and melody of the song. The song in those depressive moments could've been a Jar of Flies B-side, except Axl singing slow and higher, makes it something else.

The other thing was that Sebastian Bach should've been shot for saying the song sounded like doom metal... the song sounded nothing like that.

#944 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Revolver interview with Axl » 648 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:

I dunno, I should be excited about Axl talking about new music.
But this band has cried wolf for too many fucking years for me to believe ANYTHING that comes from any of them

DJ has been shown to be a blatant liar, again, after stating this Vegas run would be different from the last, and the band have been talking about new music and new albums for fucking years now
I just think it's pathetic how long they think they can string fans along with broken promises like this


All I can say, is thank fuck for Slash, he gets in there, writes and records 17 brand new songs, sets a release date, does promo, keeps his fans in the loop, and actually comes through on his word.


And again you make yet ANOTHER predictable post ravaging DJ, in order to prop up your Godly Slash.


If you like the guy, you like the guy fine, but DJ again needs defending, because the slamming it's unjust.


1) I guarantee you DJ has never had any informal "briefing" on how to handle the media in regards to GN'R
-- blame Team Brazil, not DJ

2) What is being perceived as "DJ is a scum sucking liar", could also easily be perceived as "DJ really loves being in GN'R, and thinks if he puts Axl on the spot and the band, that they'll be motivated in get in a room and write, something that continues to not happened, by putting out firm statements in the press"
-- blame Axl and management and the press and the fans as well, all of this anxiousness for music pre-dates DJ even being involved with them

3) DJ and Axl have been seen to be publicly friends, outside of GN'R, and none of you have any fucking clue what conversations DJ has had with Axl. Axl could've said a bunch of shit, and DJ ran with it, and then Axl left him holding the bag, and bailed on the statements. Axl is borderline LEGENDARY with everyone on the planet for doing this EXACT thing, and frankly Slash used to do it ten years ago just as fucking much
-- again, blame Axl, management, and the existing band who know the score

4) Ron knows dick, and based on his interviews that's fairly obvious. Ron has almost no communication with the band (he's said so), Ron has said the band doesn't talk to him, etc. Yet, Ron goes around giving DEFINITE answers about "we haven't did this or that". No, they just haven't did it--with Ron. He's said that to this day the band (minus Axl) are pretty cold to him, with maybe the exception of DJ, for whatever reason.
-- Ron knows less than DJ, so his honesty is one-sided view (it might be right, but still--one sided)

5) Just because a FULL BAND doesn't record together, doesn't mean nothing is happening. The clique is obvious--Axl, DJ, Richard, Tommy & Dizzy--are the clique. The side guys minus Axl have wrote together, hang together, give interviews together, and I bet you my left nut that anything that comes out as original music from this version of the lineup will say "Rose, Ashba, Fortus, Stinson, Reed" in the credits, and virtually no one else with the exception of Pitman.
-- Again, we don't know enough to say anything else regarding this matter other than what we've seen

6) In the end... this falls on Axl and no one else. We don't know what promises were made at the negotiation table, nor what Axl has said over Jager bombs, and the sharing of a Percocet. Axl may be a strong-willed, alpha male, but he is notoriously flaky, which the other guys have not been, with the exception of Richard Fortus, who does deserve blame (and i've given him alot), because Richard DID KNOW what was going on with Chinese and continued to lie on a regular basis pre-release


Slash may "hold his word" in releasing material, but I personally wish as a favor to me he'd stop. He's absolutely bastardized and destroyed his legacy recording mostly garbage, and samey material for the last 20 years with some of the world's and rock's worst, and unlistenable singers. And that's not even counting the shit lyrics in his albums.


Am I bashing Slash to bash him? No, I like the guy. But the opinion of his recording output is entirely subjective. I still have a dream, that one of my favorite guitarists (him) will find a listenable vocalist and smart writer and sit down and do, not a good, but a GREAT album. He has yet to do that, and as of now, DJ Ashba is surrounded by a far more talented vocalist and any musician in Slash's corner.

#945 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 648 weeks ago

Wow that's the best Nightrain i've heard at least since 2010. I honestly don't think Axl is doing anything much different with the vocal there, than his down-times in 2006. Most of the 2006 performances by Axl, especially Appetite songs still had alot of 2002 in them, but with alot more power and rasp like 2010. Many at the time considered "Axl vocally fucked", specifically the Inland Invasion (San Bernadino) show and that vocal immediately came to mind when hearing this Vegas 2014 Nightrain.

Although in hind-sight we all listen to this vocal, call it new and perfect to what Axl's vocal is, and ironically in 2006 it was considered crap. In hind-sight it was a nugget of gold prophecy for Axl's future, on the best of circumstances.

The reality of it all is that people's vocals change. Period. Considering Axl's peers from LA as well as the rock/metal scene of the time, Axl might be in the best shape of them all, with the exception of the Steven Tyler and David Coverdale's, both of the two had to have vocal surgeries to repair damage, and had to completely re-teach themselves how to sing. Now the two of them run off and show off at shows at their ability as the above Forevermore live video demonstrates.

I made NUMEROUS posts back when these problems showing up, comparing Axl's vocals to an aging baseball veteran. Baseball vets and aging All-stars all make the exact same mistake Axl made. They all think they are "that good" that the older they get, the less work they have to do because they "just know the game that well". The reality is, to stay in the game full-time at 37, 38, 39, 40+ years old, you've got to train EVEN HARDER than the youngens which do it effortlessly.

This recent 2014 re-emergence has seen Axl trying new things, and trying to re-train himself. Maybe spring training/rehab for a reunion? Who knows. But it's obvious he's been trying--MUCH MORE than he was. And sometimes it works, and sometimes it's an epic fail. But he's working on it, whether for a future, or to return to his own perfectionism, I dunno.

You can tell with say, a David Coverdale, that he is focusing on every single note, every single thing he does vocally, almost distracted at times. Chris Cornell is another one that does that. No it's not as 'off the cuff', but then again i'd  rather go with the Grunge sensibility of "let's have a great MUSICAL show" rather than the LA attitude of "let's show off, then fuck off".

When Axl does pay attention, does try, does understand his own vocals, and balances them properly---he's actually aged far better than he gets credit for. He honestly, when he tries, has created an all-new sound of his voice that is just as entertaining as anything he's done before. The rockers from back in the day sound balanced and more honest for a man his age, and the ballads of the new era sound absolutely heavenly.

I for one CANNOT STAND Madagascar with rasp. It's clean vocal or fuck off. The song doesn't work otherwise, and the damn studio version sounds like Axl channeling Phil Anselmo at times, with no power.

#946 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 650 weeks ago

Does anyone around here have a PS4 yet?

What do you think if so?


I'm thinking of finally getting one. MLB: The Show has finally made the successful jump to PS4, and with Batman: Arkham Knight (which looks amazing so far) coming later this year... I see me getting one before the end of the year.

#947 Re: The Sunset Strip » Phantasm V » 650 weeks ago

My personal opinions on the franchise, is that the original is a classic, and to this day underrated. Rarely is it spoken of in the same breath as Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Friday The 13th or some of these low-budget affairs from the same time frame. Phantasm to this day is haunting and still holds up.

Phantasm II is the one that so many fans adore. It's purely a spectacle. It tries to be the Aliens-to-Alien, this pumped up, bigger and badder sequel with more guns, more 'Cuda, more explosions, more more more. Yes in alot of ways PII is the original Phantasm on PED's/Steroids. But like most juicing baseball hitters, sure the home run swings are big and magnificient, but somewhere the heart is lost and the second film is no exception. Everything is bigger and badder, but the feel of the first film and that wonderful atmosphere is lost, ala T1 to T2.

Phantasm III is a total piss-take. I don't know if Coscarelli just got bored, or had pressure from Universal to make it whatever they asked for because it was going DTV in 1993/94 and they needed it to be alot of things to mass-market back then... I dunno. Either way what happens is an unever, busy, bizarre, campy-version of the series that in some ways plays like a comedy. Granted the first is kind of a Jody & Mike-story, and the second is a Mike & Liz story. The third is strictly a Reggie-story, and because of Reggie's character, Reggie is a tongue-in-cheek anti-hero. So maybe because of Reggie being the star, it was intentional to make it somewhat campy like the Reggie character. Still the film didn't have to come across as something bound for USA Up All Night with Gilbert Gottfried. It's average at best, and if I were Coscarelli I wouldn't brag about directing it.

Phantasm IV: Oblivion, which is almost universally hated (which I don't understand), was the major rebound-film for me of the franchise. Despite the fan-fare around the second film, Phantasm IV for me is easily the best of the sequels. Purely a Tall Man-story, despite a shoestring budget the film is a bizarre "what is reality?", "Dream within a dream" world attempts to have a Tall Man-origin story. Despite tons of stock footage from the original Phantasm, plus deleted scenes, returning to pad the film, what results in an interesting sequel that after 20 years restores the original darkness, and creepy atmosphere from the first film. Of all of the sequels, Phantasm IV actually feels like it's in the same world as the first. Unfortunately the end result falls short, as the budget seems too low to full flesh out the plot arc's, and the idea is kind of half-baked. Still for me it was very intesting to watch, laid some fascinating concepts, and might be the Halloween III of the franchise for me.


And with that said, Phantasm is like Atari said, one of those franchises in desperate need to rebooted. There actually were plans with Coscarelli to finalize a deal in the mid-2000s to produce a reboot trilogy with New Line Cinema. New Line wanted to fund a fantasy/horror franchise with a huge budget on the same level as Lord of the Rings for fantasy/sci-fi. Could you imagine Phantasm with such a budget? Well the original plan was to bring this to life with a rebooted story that would feature a new director (not Coscarelli), but Coscarelli on board as writer/producer. Reggie Bannister was to reprise an older version of Reggie in the original story, and Angus Scrimm would play an older version of the Tall Man, but it would still be like starting from scratch with an all-new trilogy.

Phans, like me, geeked the fuck out. Well Coscarelli spoke too soon about it, before the contracts were signed, and the plans were canceled for whatever reason. But the fact remains that Phantasm, to this day, has THE MOST BRILLIANT concept for any horror film that i've seen.

The philosophical ramifications of the "what is reality", "dream within a dream", mixed with horror/sci-fi/fantasy/action-elements could've been one of  the deepest, richest worlds in horror that were ever seen. In the right hands, the concept could've been LOTR or Star Wars for horror films.


Instead... I dunno. It just didn't happen. The films remain cult fan favorites, and I will be first in line for Phantasm V as I was first in line in high school when Phantasm IV came out. More than likely P5 will be a Direct-to-Netflix release, but still I will be there ready to love it.

Sadly Phantasm's legacy will always be that of "what could've been". Still hope a die-hard fan one day comes into a shitload of money and bank rolls a big Hollywood reboot of it. It still has a concept waiting to be fully explored. Phantasm has yet to be fully realized.


It's never over...



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


#948 Re: The Sunset Strip » Phantasm V » 650 weeks ago

I JUST found out about this. I am a HUGE Phantasm fan.

My head 'bout exploded when I found out they were PHINALLY doing a fifth film.


However...


After I saw that trailer, as stoked as I was, I definitely have my reservations. It certainly doesn't look any cheaper than anything that shows up up Direct-To-Netflix these days. And if they director and cast stay close to the source material, it sounds good.

I'm just hoping it's a worth finale to the franchise, rather than Phantasm's -- "Highlander V: The Source". Bleh.

#949 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 650 weeks ago

JKL wrote:

Apparently this post slipped by everyone. If true, this explains the Ron rumors, as well as Axl suddenly at least trying to put in effort as it could possibly be his swan song.


What I think is the more fascinating question is the article goes into mentioning that insiders close to Axl believe that he's "done with touring". He's made enough money touring.

Nobody said, no more studio work. If Axl has made his bank, and there's still a massive market out there for anything Guns N' Roses, I have been a HUGE HUGE HUGE supporter of Axl retiring from live shows for the last few years. I felt in 2010, 2011 at the latest that Axl should've quit touring to become exclusively a studio-only band, similar to Queen post-Kind of Magic, post-1986, post-Freddie diagnosis.

I wish, if Axl still has any artist in him, would just lock himself in a studio, write, and fucking relax. Have a take, don't suck, if it does suck, come back tomorrow. He could cut albums and work as long as he'd like. The pressure from Chinese is gone, and honestly if Guns N' Roses as a band is disbanded, Axl could easily just do session musicians and have 100 people be Guns N' Roses. From Slash to Izzy to Duff to Kim Thayil to Buckethead to Robin to DJ to Joe Perry to John 5 to Doug Aldrich to Tom Morello to Paul McCartney to any fucking body that would come down and jam with him on record.

And he'd never have to tour. Sounds pretty fucking cool to me. And it would also retain Axl's legacy vocally. Axl could easily hammer out multiple records with his old voice, if he was allowed numerous takes. Live.... I think he's dne.

Smoking Guns wrote:

REUNION STARTS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, maybe. That's another way to look at it. Or at least a new incarnation that features Axl, Richard, DJ, Izzy, Duff, Tommy, Frank, Dizzy & Chris. It would be nice to see Axl retire "Guns N' Roses" and reform the old band and say "Guns N' Fuckin' Roses is back however".

But Axl vocally is in such a bad state, that live... the moment is lost. Or at least lost until Axl repairs his vocals. Whether new or old, I still stand by Axl needs to perform strictly in a studio and give the live shows a break for many years to come.

It'd be really cool if GN'R recorded a new album every year or two, and Axl and new or old GN'R would come out and only perform in select cities on select dates to promote it, then retire back into the studio. It's like a Zeppelin model, mixed with Genesis-isms.

I wish Axl would've did something like that a long time ago. It allows him to still be Axl fuckin Rose, still have GN'R, still have a new band or reunion, and tour whenever he likes, while keeping his legacy and reputation in tact.

#950 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 650 weeks ago

My favorite Doug Aldrich moments:


Lion - "Never Surrender"


Lion - "Love Is A Lie"

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Bad Moon Rising - "Built For Speed"


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Bad Moon Rising - Tears In The Dark [acoustic]


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Bad Moon Rising - Into The Pit

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Hurricane - Reign of Love

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Hurricane - Don't Wanna Dream

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Hurricane - 10,000 Years

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Hurricane - Let It Slide


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Whitesnake - Blues For Mylene [solo]


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Whitesnake - 'Til The End of Time

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Whitesnake - Whipping Boy Blues (Swamp Mix)

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Whitesnake - Forevermore  *dedicated to GN'R Evo*

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