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#961 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 433 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:It's actually really easy...ship them out as you come across them...you don't have to seek them out The only way you're going to come across them is if they do something wrong, get hung up in the wrong crowd, or someone turns them in for some reason. You don't have to waste money finding them; just deal with the ones that have to be dealt with. Give them some motivation to stay out of trouble and not hang out with the wrong people.
If they can come up with an actual solution that secures the border going forward, I'm all ears. That's a lot easier said than done. Until then, get rid of them...maybe that will motivate the democrats to be more cooperative.
I am okay with that. But a traffic violation should not be one of those things or else they will just target every Mexican they see driving lol. Needs to be crime and shit. Maybe a DUI could be a reason. But a tail light out or something stupid shouldn’t be.
That's fine. I watch a lot of Live PD and it's so annoying how they just use any excuse to hassle people.
#962 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 433 weeks ago
It's actually really easy...ship them out as you come across them...you don't have to seek them out The only way you're going to come across them is if they do something wrong, get hung up in the wrong crowd, or someone turns them in for some reason. You don't have to waste money finding them; just deal with the ones that have to be dealt with. Give them some motivation to stay out of trouble and not hang out with the wrong people.
If they can come up with an actual solution that secures the border going forward, I'm all ears. That's a lot easier said than done. Until then, get rid of them...maybe that will motivate the democrats to be more cooperative.
#963 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 433 weeks ago
Do it...send em home
I agree.
I think you're going to be really disappointed if this happens though and doesn't end up the way you think it's going to. Send em home got Trump elected...I don't know why you think it would somehow undermine him. Have you read the comments on those social media posts? There are a LO of people all for booting them...as many as the bleeding hearts that want to save them.
#964 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 434 weeks ago
Republicans have shut down the government 3 times in the last 6 years....
No party does it alone. It's a group effort.
#965 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 434 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:No issues with sending him home. We all win as it has to start somewhere. Now lets keep it going. Send 'em all home.
The guy had 30 years to try to get legal. 30 years. At least 20 of those were as an adult. He shouldn't be the first one sent home, but he should be on the list.
can we send home some fat white bitches and a few uneducated honkies too?
If they aren't legally here we can send anyone home.
#966 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 434 weeks ago
No issues with sending him home. We all win as it has to start somewhere. Now lets keep it going. Send 'em all home.
The guy had 30 years to try to get legal. 30 years. At least 20 of those were as an adult. He shouldn't be the first one sent home, but he should be on the list.
#967 Re: The Garden » 2018 Predictions » 434 weeks ago
^ Was the politics ever on air a bit too? Sorta like SNL, or are you referring to twitter etc. Yeah I dunno, if they did it for $4.99/mo people might order just to catch a few college football, NBA & MLB games per month. I do admit most 30 for 30s are really good, I've been a fan. Ditched cable a few years ago so I catch them on Netflix/Youtube when I can.
Disney's fortunate in the they purchased Star Wars, and its been a cash cow. Cause they've lost a ton on ESPN it seems. Supposedly they monstrously overpaid on events like Wimbleton, Racing etc let alone MNF, college sports etc.
On air. Some shows worse than others, but it's impossible to avoid unless just watching games. People getting fired for saying stupid stuff while Stephen A. and that awful sportscenter pairing can say whatever they want and it's ok since it fits their agenda.
#968 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 434 weeks ago
Ok. That wasn't really my point though. My point is that if they can show they can contribute positively by putting in 4 years in the military or some other public service for those that can't do the military for some reason, then they deserve to stay. At that point they will have earned it. You might even convince me to make it 4 years in the military or 4 years in college (or 2 years military after 2 years in trade school maybe learning a skill the military can use). I'm open to ideas, but they all have to include showing you won't just be a moocher.
#969 Re: The Garden » 2018 Predictions » 434 weeks ago
I think ESPN will die if they do that. I couldn't tell you the last time I turned on ESPN and I used to watch it all the time. I turn to sports to get away from real life; once they went political, I checked out. They push more agendas than anything that I watch and I'm just not interested in seeing that from my sports. I think the 85 Bears 30 for 30 was the last time I turned on ESPN.
I do still listen to the radio station though. Grew up with Greenberg, so I have listened to him for decades (literally). Not a fan of the new show really, but maybe it will grow on me. I liked Golic with Greeny and I liked Wingo on other shows, but something is off with the chemistry between them...
#970 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 434 weeks ago
I'm guessing we allow a ton of people from the Middle East (India, Pakistan, etc) and Asian countries, so lets not pretend we're only looking for whitey and the German master race. We're looking for people that can make a positive impact to the country. You can make a case for the migrant farm workers or building trades fitting that, so make a case.
Years ago I worked in a factory with a bunch of Mexicans. There were definitely white people that didn't like them just because they were Mexican. This was in the north. There were a few lazy ones, but overall they worked harder than most people there...I think that's one of the reasons they were disliked. I took Spanish in HS, so I could sit around and bs with them. We got along fine and I have no idea if they were all legal or not. Never crossed my mind...I was maybe 20 years old and legal meant nothing to me at that point.
The problem with the dreamers is they are still illegal regardless of who is at fault. If you want to put them through the same scrutiny and make decisions on who stays and who goes based on contributions (or the ability to contribute), I think I am okay with that. I think they should be required to serve in the military though. Let them finish HS, put them in the military for 4 years, then give them the same scholarship access military people have when they complete it. If there's an alternative way they can contribute through community service or something else for those that can't do the military service, we can discuss it but they must serve the country in some capacity, Give them a EAD (or something to that purpose) after their schooling (university or trade); once they contribute enough in taxes (which means they actually got a job and are contributing to society), allow them to apply for a green card. Yes, under my plan people with higher paying jobs will qualify more quickly...I'm okay with that as they are contributing at a higher level. Once they have a green card, they can go through the same process as any other person on the path to citizenship. It's not a perfect plan, but it forces people to earn their way in instead of just handing it to them. THAT I can live with.
