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#971 Re: The Sunset Strip » your favorite driving songs » 985 weeks ago

Paradise City - GNR
Pictures Of You - The Cure
Breath Me - Sia
God Hates A Coward - Mike Patton
Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You and Shadow - Bumblefoot

#972 Re: Guns N' Roses » Remember this document? » 985 weeks ago

sic. wrote:

This might be the last road to China.

While the US tour was a moderate success (as madagas has pointed out in length), in essence the situation is no different from 2002. The band still fares considerably well in population centers and is still able to sell out Madison Square Garden without a hitch. However, once the tour hits the wilderness, so to speak, ticket sales wind down and rows of seats are left vacant. Another related matter is Angel Down, with its three exclusive Axl tracks. After an enthusiastic build-up by Bach, the beloved hyperactive homie, album sales have twindled and more recently, trickled down to a halt. Granted, record sales are dependant of several factors, but even when considering the era of digital downloads (counterbalanced by the fair reception of the CD leaks), one could say being Axl Rose is not what it used to be.

I don't agree that Axl being on Angel Down in the era of downloading makes him any less of an artist because sales weren't high.    GNR fans, fans of Axl downloaded the 3 songs and didn't buy the album.  If we could see the download numbers of those songs, I bet it be considerably high.   I agree that when this band goes to a non major city, yes ticket sales may be down but it's not like crickets in the audience. 


I wouldn't pin the blame on shoddy tour planning solely unto Merck. While he was obviously the one calling a good number of shots (as he was likely the most qualified person in Axl's inner circle to handle this), Merck was also dependant on Axl's commitment. In his own mind, Axl is still very much the rock star he was fifteen years ago. Even though he's had his share of subsequent life experiences, he still enjoys throwing bacchanalian orgies post-show and relishes in having the benefits of a star. He still exercises his prerogative to take the stage only after properly 'zoning' himself, with the correct assumption that his management will shield him from whatever consequences this behavior might have. And he still thinks the record company, along with the rest of the world, will anticipate the new album as much as they did back in 1991.

I really don't believe Axl believes that the anticipation of his album would be that of UYI's.  The man knows that now is very different from back then.  Regardless, that isn't going to change who he is, although he dresses top notch now.  22  Axl Rose is a star he can relish in it.   Axl still even tho it's not the late 80's, early 90's, is still very much a rockstar and can and will have the benefits of that no matter if he is selling out places to full capacity or somewhat to capacity.   With that said, CD has been mentioned in TV shows, mags, newspapers and forums and internest news sites,  he certainly knows there is alot of anticipation for it none the less.    Look at what all for forum fans have been bitching about for years, the numbers of CD will certainly surpass Angel Down.

It gets difficult when leaving US soil.

In 2007 he wasn't on US soil and these shows all had high attendance.   In Reading the posts that forum members made that live in those areas, the shows seemed to be packed.

The only way to make GNR in any way a viable and respectable modern-day is for them to release an album and establish an identity of their own. In today's market, album sales will hardly be stellar (and certainly nowhere near the numbers AFD churned at the height of the analog age). However, if the music's as good as it seems, Axl still has a few good years of heavy touring available to him, and while never really reclaiming the throne of mainstream music, he may still atleast go out with his Guns blazing and leaving a legacy of little more than a man who could've been a contender.

I do agree that if CD is released, people would be less angry and I do think that more people would then go to the shows and release the anger that's harbored but you have to admit with no album it's like that the tour was sooo bad as people make it out to be that they had to cancel the tour completely.

#973 Re: The Sunset Strip » Screencap Game » 985 weeks ago

Steller round, All of you are correct!!!

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#974 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » so I got this email today...... » 985 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

That's peculiar.. A one off show in Detroit.

I saw that too. I probably won't bother going, but it's good to see them back at the Fillmore instead of trying to fill The Palace again.

I guess VR didn't fill the Palace either huh.   Maybe Detroit just doen't have an abundence of GNR fans.

#975 Re: Guns N' Roses » Remember this document? » 985 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

I would have read the threads you are talking about (trust me)-you have nothing but a fuzzy memory and SUBJECTIVE OPINION. Pollstar statistics and Billboard statistics are as official as it is going to get. 17 I'm done with this.

I have to agree, it's all based upon memory and opinion, all the shows I went to were packed, granted I am sure they had shows that didn't fill the entire place but that doesn't mean the 06 tour wasn't successful.

#977 Re: The Garden » The Rant Thread » 985 weeks ago

data11235 wrote:
DoubleTalkingJive wrote:

My husband threw away a perfectly good shopvac WTF!!!!! 4  So it was icky inside.  He says because of that and for room 10   we aren't made of money to just go and get a new one when/if we get another flood. 17

Next time you get a flood.. Buy him a mop and say "Here ya go!!"

What really pisses me off... calling for Chinese food and have to say your order over and over again, because they DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!  Then when you get it, it is still wrong!!! 4

HAHA you can count on that!!


I have had that happen to me as well with Chinese Food...LOL

#978 Re: Guns N' Roses » Remember this document? » 985 weeks ago

People make it like the 06 tour was a complete failure, all these cancelled shows for lack of ticket sales.  I don't recall 06 being a tour failure because of ticket sales, if in some cases that were true then so be it but I don't think it's something that stands out like a sore thumb in 06.   Beit some shows were cancelled for what reasons, as you said, GNR fans make them up in their head, even tho a reason was given by the band. These assumptions are based upon Axl's track record?   Does Axl and or GNR have a track record of bad ticket sales or is it to assume because they are pissed at Axl in general.

#979 Re: Guns N' Roses » Remember this document? » 985 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

the show they blamed the fire marshall on had low sales if i remember correctly

anyway he said march 6th in that letter...but he didnt say what year 16

That could be true that, that show did have low sales, also that is a place that most major bands don't even play because they feel it's not worth it unfortunately from what I remember being reported in the articles as well but still the fact remains that people are assuming they cancelled the show for low sales instead of the fire marshall so that is the only reason I am on this, assuming and fact are 2 different things.

#980 Re: Guns N' Roses » Remember this document? » 985 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

The lack of ticket sales wasn't a rumor.  They blocked off large sections of mid size arenas and called the shows sell outs.  russ wouldn't be saying that they blocked off the upper deck in Detroit if it didn't happen.  That wasn't an isolated incident.  The shows that were cancelled early in the tour were due to ticket sales.  The supposed album cancellations were because of lack of ticket sales.  They couldn't even give tickets away or sell them at a huge discount to fill some of the places they played.  The Maine show was because of poor ticket sales no matter what a fire marshall did or didn't say.  The few shows that sold well were never cancelled, yet cancellations happend at a lot of shows that weren't selling well.  You can't possbily think that is coincidental.

I was asking for a confirm from Russ if they played Detroit, I was a little unsure of his statement if that was fact or not.

Can you tell me the shows they blocked off and called them sell outs, I am curious as to the shows you are talking about, I'll stand corrected if you tell me shows they did this at. 

Where was it reported that show were cancelled due to ticket sales early in the tour?

The Maine show was an isolated incident and still remains a controversy.

It wasn't like there were over like 15 shows cancelled in 06, the maine show, another show due to Axl having strep throat or something and the shows in Cali in Jan, what other shows were cancelled in 06? 

I am not trying to bust your chops, just give me a little more proof of it and I'll stand corrected because I don't remember show after show being cancelled in 06.

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