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#971 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 338 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

3.  I don’t think this is unique or special. Biden literally did what Trump was accused of.  Obama was caught on a mic telling Dmitrev he’d “have more flexibility after the election.”  It’s what anyone does at that stage.

Do I think it’s “good” that it happens, no. The media campaign congressional democrats have launched since day one turns me off to anything they say. It’s removed their credibility, and this impeachment trial is so partisan, the notion it should be taken serious is laughable. That’s the great tragedy, this is what our government has become.

Fair point. You're being honest.

However, just 2 things of note:
1. Why were the phone call memo's moved to the 'top secret' drawer if it's ho hum business. Moved, months ago, I think even before the whistleblower complaint IIRC.  People were looking for it for Pence's call or visit.
2. Why did Bolton quit the day after hearing of the complaint, and the money released the day after that. I suppose I can see them just releasing it to get it overwith, but Bolton quitting within 24 hours is pretty unusual. It's not like he waited it out very long & gave up, he basically quit asap.

#972 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 338 weeks ago

Flagg (and others), just curious, do you believe:

1. Trump didn't do it.
2. Not enough was proven that he did do it to impeach.
3. He did it but it's not a crime/impeachable offense.

#973 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 338 weeks ago

I still think the Senate might go weak and vote to not impeach. McConnells is a pure dick. Dems need Bolton to testify to nail this shut.

Friend of mine posted saying Trumps Walter Reed visit was a flase flag, and he thinks the GOP will fore him to resign saying Dems ruined his health. Pure guess but no more fucked up that this Presidency already.

The Stone case is interesting, hope that gets bigger. I do think Pence, Pompeo & Mulvaney are obvi guilty. Pence needs to go down with the ship, I want this President Pelosi thing to grow legs, haha, I will ctfo.

#974 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 338 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
shutout52 wrote:
misterID wrote:

This hysteria is grating. Seriously, is there anyone here, outside SG, who actually wants Trump as President? For three years he's been a week from impeachment, removal and prison. It's not going to happen. Not unless there's something big we haven't heard of yet.

No one, aside from the lunatic fringe has ever thought it's "a week" away. Or even a month. Anyone who knows a goddamn thing about politics, criminal investigations, and the processes of either knows it takes a while.

You must be new.  There's 2 members who have said this non-stop for 3 years.

yeah, Mitch & the other guy 16

#975 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Hence, no reason to get excited about any of this. Concentrate on the election.

Nahh, double down on it. Start calling it Bribery. Blackmail. Extortion.

All in.

#976 Re: The Sunset Strip » Black Crowes reunite » 339 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:
James wrote:

Can't wait to see the interest in this. Like wasted said, they're not really as big as they think they are.

I don't know... maybe I'm underestimating how many people want to take a selfie while Hard to Handle plays in the background....

Eh, they’re doing the amphitheater circuit. It’s not like The Smashing Pumpkins reunion tour when they booked major market arenas, only to rope off upper levels. Anybody (relatively) can do the amphitheaters.

Yeah. Tbh i think alot of these shows are well attended by just people with disposable incomes who like to go to shows, not really hardcore fans.

Hootie toured last year, Better Than Ezra, Jack Johnson, Zac Brown, John Mellencamp etc. Not saying they're all bad, just they tour periodically & its financially feasible.

That's something in my life Iook back on, I wish I went to more shows.

#977 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Perhaps. Does that change anything I've said?

He's not going to be removed for collusion, obstruction, bribery, slander or witness intimidation through Twitter.

He might not be removed for those crimes, but he sure AF committed them.

#978 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
shutout52 wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

Are you trump apologists learning anything yet? My guess is no.

Of course not. This is all just some conspiracy of the DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE to them still.

This hysteria is grating. Seriously, is there anyone here, outside SG, who actually wants Trump as President? For three years he's been a week from impeachment, removal and prison. It's not going to happen. Not unless there's something big we haven't heard of yet.

He'll be the first President that'll have to be pardoned since Nixon.

#979 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

Set another record in the market. No way Trump loses. Only way is if impeachment leads to removal from office.

Nixon got us out of Vietnam, where what, upwards of 1,000 Americans were dying a month!

Mehh, the so-called failed Mueller investigation has led to convictions to Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Papadapolous  Cohen, & now Stone, who proved a connection to Russia and wikileaks, all while self admittingly not attempting to charge Trump, but Im sure he's got little to worry about.

Although, there is the issue with him frantically pushing the issue of withholding his tax returns to the Supreme Court, something every Presidential CANDIDATE did since Nixon. And the SDNY case was passed on to them by Mueller.

Lastly, Kraft & Epstein, both vehement Trump loyalists, were both brought in weeks after Cohen whistled to the Feds. I'm sure that was all a big coincidence tho, just some Florida cops doing their job.

Yep. Trump has nothing to worry about.

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