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#971 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
Biden simply represents a change. Most people who will be voting will not be doing all of that work of researching him. IN addition, I'd like to point out that you just pointed to what I see as conspiracy theories. It's pure propaganda that came out mostly since Trump has been around.
Biden isn't a change. He's literally been in the federal government for 40+ years. He was the VP 4 years ago. If he's anything, he's a return to the status quo. Joe Biden is Washington. Nothing I said is a "conspiracy". It's an objective truth that isn't in dispute. Feel free to google any of it and let me know what isn't 100% the objective truth. Just because you don't have a basic historical understanding of Joe Biden and his record, or just don't care, doesn't make what I type not true, let alone a conspiracy.
Plagiarism: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-plagiarism/
Kids in Cages: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … a-adminis/
Racial Jungle: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden … gle-quote/
NAFTA: https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/joe-biden … han-nafta/
Drones: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar … es/511454/
Anita Hill: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 … ontroversy
#972 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
I just don’t understand how people convinced Donald Trump was the manifestation of corruption and ignorance (his public comments and gaffes) can then go and support Joe Biden.
This is a guy who’s son was kicked out of the military reserves for doing Coke, fucks his dead brother’s wife while married, then gets millions of dollars from Russian and Chinese companies solely for potential access to his father - the VP of the US. He then publicly admits that he threatened the president of Ukraine he would not issue them congressionally apportioned funds unless they fire a prosecutor whom was investigating the company his son received millions for in an industry he had no qualified experience in.
This is a guy who has ran for President multiple times, and lost due to gaffes and corruption each time. He was caught plagiarizing a speech in the 80s and dropped out. He attacked Anita Hill (rightly imho), and called integrated schools “racial jungles”. He lied about the nature of the death of his wife and daughter and the timing of it. He’s lied numerous times about where he went to school and his academic record.
In the book the Irishman is based off of, Sheerhan claims he burned down the Republican candidates mail inserts on Biden’s/the mob/the union’s behalf to get Biden his first election to Congress. I’m not saying it’s true, but it certainly casts the shadow of corruption and is absolutely possible if you consider Delaware in the 70s and Biden’s union ties.
If you want to avoid someone who says stupid shit and lies, I don’t know how you claim Biden is objectively better. At least with Trump the plausibility of ignorance can be made for half his bullshit. Biden’s history of plagiarism and lies in his lucid years makes a claim of ignorance pretty damn difficult.
All the things Democrats have been outraged at Trump for, Biden is the worst candidate to counter that. Kids I’m cages - that was Barry and Uncle Joe. Executive orders on DACA, Biden says hello. Trump has wound down our military involvements, check out Papa Joe’s history of armed conflicts and the drone strikes under Obama. Biden was part of the original NAFTA. The only bi-partisan accomplishment of the past 4 years was trying to unfuck the original NAFTA.
That leaves you with Iran and the Paris Climate Accord. Democrats led by Schumer opposed the Iran deal under Obama. Even if Biden tried to revive it, he’d still lack any authority because the original agreement was never confirmed by the Senate. Divide your party and massive executive over each? I think not. So we rejoin the Paris Accords. And? It’s non binding and they’d need federal legislation to adhere to any of its goals. That ain’t happening unless they remove the filibuster and every Senator to include Manchin signs on. Again, unlikely.
So I don’t know what you’re getting other than a culture war victory. You give more of a platform to AOC and Sanders, which will flip the house right back to the GOP like it did in 2010. The Democratic Party of the 1990s is no more. It can’t exist with Talib, Omar and AOC. Most of the radical shit they’d pass would be struck down as unconstitutional, so all you’re doing is pissing off the extremes in the interim.
I loathe Trump. Hearing him speak for more than 10 seconds makes my skin crawl. He’s a loud mouth with the money to back up his threats. That’s all he is. But he did give us the best America we’ve ever had. Lowest crime and best quality of life ever. Maybe he doesn’t deserve credit as much as the people appointed so who kept the engine running. But if Trump is what it takes to keep those guys running the engine, count me in.
I have no interests in people racing to create and identify victims at the helm. There’s a lot to criticize Trump for, but all the most salacious and corrupt can be much more aptly applied at Joe Biden. Toss in the progressive left, and it’s a no brainer for me. I can’t understand how people who profess to loathe Trump can turn around and support Joe Biden. 9/10 times it’s not a choice of intelligent thought.
War and Peace. Bla Bla. Yawn
#973 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
I don’t know what discussion there is with Chauvin. He’s clearly not a flight risk with that bail being secured. So he either offs himself or gets his day in court. The only question up in the air is how much property damage will be committed by peaceful activists in the aftermath of his verdict. But Michelle Obama told us it was racist to identify the violence in every major American city, because in 98% of public gatherings related to George Floyd, building aren’t set on fire. If only a 2% casualty rate could be applied to COVID!
#974 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
Democrats really need to consider if all this election fuckery will pay off. If it’s contested and undecided, Trump wins. All this fantasy of Pelosi being seated is just that. 26 states have a GOP congressional majority. That’s 26 states voting for Trump in the house. The Senate would vote Pence.
#975 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:People will be voting for someone not Trump. And he's done it to himself.
That’s my point. They’re not voting for Biden. And that’s very dangerous. The media has created a narrative that is completely false. Trump isn't who they say he is, and Biden definitely isn’t who they say he is.
Then people should hope republicans keep the senate. If Biden is the centrist deal maker he claims, things should work out better.
I absolutely am. With NC now firmly in play, the odds of Dems getting the senate should be sub 50%.
#976 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:No one can point to a policy and say this is why I’m voting for Biden. Because you’re not voting for policy. You’re voting for your team. That’s why in both the NFL and elections people support rapists and wife beaters.
Things will be objectively worse on January 20th 2025 than they were on March 12th 2020. You’ll blame Trump. But it’ll be Biden pushing the same atrocious trade and foreign policies as he did under Obama.
Trump was impeached for what Biden unapologetically did. No amount of spin will change that. When black unemployment skyrockets, it’ll be Democratic economic policies. When millions of more destitute and illiterate migrants cross the border and stay, it’ll be because of Democratic policies.
Thank god all the fear mongering about whites supremacist and militias is all bullshit. Cause antifa and BLM will still riot after the election. If the left’s fantasy for revolution came true, there’d be a lot of dead Bernie supporters.
Were not winning the trade war despite all the propaganda...
That’s why farmers are being paid to throw their crops in the trash.
Or there’s a fucking pandemic. You don’t get to ignore 37 months of prosperity due to a virus your party downplayed and you celebrated.
Nothing Biden or Democrats offer improves the deficit with China. But I’m sure you knew that.
#977 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:No one can point to a policy and say this is why I’m voting for Biden. Because you’re not voting for policy. You’re voting for your team. That’s why in both the NFL and elections people support rapists and wife beaters.
People will be voting for someone not Trump. And he's done it to himself.
That’s my point. They’re not voting for Biden. And that’s very dangerous. The media has created a narrative that is completely false. Trump isn't who they say he is, and Biden definitely isn’t who they say he is.
#978 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
No one can point to a policy and say this is why I’m voting for Biden. Because you’re not voting for policy. You’re voting for your team. That’s why in both the NFL and elections people support rapists and wife beaters.
Things will be objectively worse on January 20th 2025 than they were on March 12th 2020. You’ll blame Trump. But it’ll be Biden pushing the same atrocious trade and foreign policies as he did under Obama.
Trump was impeached for what Biden unapologetically did. No amount of spin will change that. When black unemployment skyrockets, it’ll be Democratic economic policies. When millions of more destitute and illiterate migrants cross the border and stay, it’ll be because of Democratic policies.
Thank god all the fear mongering about whites supremacist and militias is all bullshit. Cause antifa and BLM will still riot after the election. If the left’s fantasy for revolution came true, there’d be a lot of dead Bernie supporters.
#979 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/06/br … operation/
This really should be the talk of the town. This is nothing new, but the media owes the American people and the Trump administration a huge apology. Russiagate was a Clinton scam the entire time, and career bureaucrats under Obama encouraged it. That Brennan went on TV and accused Trump of treason knowing what he knew, is just unforgivable. And people want to put Biden back into power so they can continue these abuses of power. Maybe Hunter can make millions more while dad threatens nations to cut aide unless they acquiesces to whatever is in his best interest.
We know Trump is full of shit and bloviates. I loathe it when he speaks, but we all know to take what he says with a grain of salt and expect it to be hyperbole. The reality is that Clinton, Obama and Biden were just as dishonest, but we're told that they're somehow better. That's my issue.
#980 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 292 weeks ago
Before it's pulled, Katie Hill just got a movie deal. Contrary to reports, she wasn't kicked out of Congress because naked pictures of her leaked, but because she was sleeping with her interns. Her staff just took over her old Twitter account:
She’s making herself out to be a victim. Like the majority of people in today’s political environment. Cohen was enemy #1 and a liar. Now everything he says is front page news on leftward sites.
She cheated on her husband with an intern. Clinton did this, and moveon.org still exists to this day.
She got a raw deal, but only because she tried to champion the me too bullshit. Same as Franken. If every person who ever grabbed an ass or cheated on a partner were banned from politics or high positions, our legislatures and board rooms would be empty.
