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misterID
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misterID wrote:

I don't know what this 50% number is or came from. Bernie is a niche candidate. If this was a two person race he'd lose like he did last time. The man has never worked, never held a job, he's a professional socialist activist.

Of course Republicans want to do shady shit to improve their electorate, so do Democrats. Democrats made the strategic decision to give up on white working class voters, a demographic who votes, to chase demographics who don't.

Yes, it's a democracy, saying otherwise is just talking points.

What executive order has Trump signed that has taken any right away from you, or hurt you financially?

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Color me relieved.  I was starting to get panic attacks at the idea of Sanders winning in November.

How do you think it would go with Bernie tho?  Nothing he says will get passed without 60 votes. Can they do the McConnell option and pass with 51, or is that only for certain things?  Anyway even getting 61 votes on some of his ideas would be difficult. (I guess Executive Orders could be a fear)

I think it's too soon to predict anything. Warrens not dropping out, especially if Bloomberg steps away. Also Bloomberg isn't on SC I don't think, so he'l only heading for Tuesday, admittedly all or nothing. If Bloomberg does drop, Warrens going to attack Biden at the knees, singularly on Hunter Biden, which I feel hasn't been addressed enough yet. Personally, to me, Bidens too old, he's really losing his wits, takes a second to gather a thought, misspeaks, he isn't right in the head anymore, his time has passed as an executive. If Bernie wins it, I predict a 3rd party candidate, likely HRC. Anyone else would see how much Bloomberg spent losing out to the Bernie Bros, and realize its not a good spending of money. for Hillary & her backers, it might be.

Also...Biden is a total goof...i imagine trump using him as a punching bag and him doing very little to retaliate.

I don’t know how much of the game matters....but Biden needs to be more eloquent to win. I just feel he’d be totally buried by Trumps approach.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

I don't know what this 50% number is or came from. Bernie is a niche candidate. If this was a two person race he'd lose like he did last time. The man has never worked, never held a job, he's a professional socialist activist.

Of course Republicans want to do shady shit to improve their electorate, so do Democrats. Democrats made the strategic decision to give up on white working class voters, a demographic who votes, to chase demographics who don't.

Yes, it's a democracy, saying otherwise is just talking points.

What executive order has Trump signed that has taken any right away from you, or hurt you financially?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics … index.html

It’s more like 45 percent.

misterID
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misterID wrote:

How does that answer ... anything?

misterID
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misterID wrote:

I mean, it says white working class voters put Trump in the WH, like I said. Didn't see anything about Bernie appealing to anyone.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

I mean, it says white working class voters put Trump in the WH, like I said. Didn't see anything about Bernie appealing to anyone.

You didn’t see any of the data showing that voter turnout was at a 20 year low?

misterID
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misterID wrote:

And? They were the two least popular candidates in modern history. The 2018 election broke records on turn out, the majority of seat flips came from moderate/centrist Dems (the folks you can't stand).

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

And? They were the two least popular candidates in modern history. The 2018 election broke records on turn out, the majority of seat flips came from moderate/centrist Dems (the folks you can't stand).

It’s not that i can’t stand them...it’s just that i wouldn’t rely on Joe Biden to get those centrists. There’s too little difference between Biden and Trump.

When trump makes fun of him for the litany of things there are to make fun of him for...he’s just gonna eat it.

All those centrists will side with Trump...i feel strongly that they will.

If we’re gonna do the centrist thing then Bloomberg is the guy.

Also...this data indicates that perhaps trumps maximized his ceiling already.

misterID
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misterID wrote:

I don't have a lot of faith in Joe, either, but centrists care about their livelihood, their family, their concerns. There's not enough shaming or bullying that's ever going to change that.

Bloomberg is just awful. I think he'd do worse than Biden. If Biden picks someone like Amy as a VP that will help.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

I don't have a lot of faith in Joe, either, but centrists care about their livelihood, their family, their concerns. There's not enough shaming or bullying that's ever going to change that.

Bloomberg is just awful. I think he'd do worse than Biden. If Biden picks someone like Amy as a VP that will help.

Or Hillary? The centrist game is daunting right now.

Here’s an alternative to the doom and gloom Bernie scenario...what if he does raise taxes on billionaires, absolves some student loan debt, give a Medicaid/care option for all and lower the deficit...is that really that bad?

He’s never going to make this country socialist.

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