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Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

However NO PARDON FOR DAVID PATREAUS. What is going on here??

TheMole
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Re: US Politics Thread

TheMole wrote:

So Obama has commuted Manning's sentence, which means she'll be free in 5 months or so. Assange said he'd agree to being extradited to the US if Obama released Manning... You guys reckon Obama wanted to make a last big splash by being the president that got Assange to turn himself in?

Smoking Guns
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Re: US Politics Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:

Holy fuck people are pisssssed about this pardon. Holy shit.

TheMole
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Re: US Politics Thread

TheMole wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Obama commutes Chelsea Manning, who leaked info to Wikileaks and was basically a trader.

Beaten to the punch by Smoking (I think you mean "traitor" by the way, which I don't personally think she was. A whistleblower is a more apt description, imho).

TheMole
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TheMole wrote:

Question still stands tho, you think he did this to get Assange to turn himself in?

Smoking Guns
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Re: US Politics Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:
TheMole wrote:

So Obama has commuted Manning's sentence, which means she'll be free in 5 months or so. Assange said he'd agree to being extradited to the US if Obama released Manning... You guys reckon Obama wanted to make a last big splash by being the president that got Assange to turn himself in?

Extradite him to the US with Trump as pres? Nah....  he is showing sympathy to a transgender person.

Randall Flagg
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Assanage isn't going to turn himself in. 

At least the US Army won't be on the hook for Manning's surgery.  That traitorous rat will now get millions in donations, meanwhile the left will cry foul at Wikileaks still.  Amazing how they struggle to stay coherent and on message. 

Citizen leaking classified information.  Hero

Foreign government one of their candidates honeymooned in, leaks emails from the Clinton campaign, it's the worst attack since 9/11

Smoking Guns
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Re: US Politics Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Assanage isn't going to turn himself in. 

At least the US Army won't be on the hook for Manning's surgery.  That traitorous rat will now get millions in donations, meanwhile the left will cry foul at Wikileaks still.  Amazing how they struggle to stay coherent and on message. 

Citizen leaking classified information.  Hero

Foreign government one of their candidates honeymooned in, leaks emails from the Clinton campaign, it's the worst attack since 9/11

Exactly.

TheMole
 Rep: 77 

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TheMole wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Citizen leaking classified information.  Hero

Foreign government one of their candidate honeymooned in, leaks emails from the Clinton campaign, it's the worst attack since 9/11

I'm not in the "Clinton was robbed" camp by any stretch of the imagination, but don't you think the parts above in bold are what make the most important difference. One is an American citizen acting out of the personal belief that his (at that point in time) actions will make his country better (or at least expose something which he believed the American people had to know), the other is a foreign government (and one that the US has had a rocky relationship with, to put it mildly) trying to influence the outcome of your election.

Regardless of the actual nature of the information leaked, isn't it obvious why the second one is much more concerning?

TheMole
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Re: US Politics Thread

TheMole wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

However NO PARDON FOR DAVID PATREAUS. What is going on here??

Why the fuck would he need to be pardoned, he's not even serving jail time?

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