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Bumble4tus
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

Bumble4tus wrote:
madagas wrote:

The only promotion this thing needs at this point is a good single....get it all over radio, youtube, itunes, etc....the only thing that overcomes a decade of bullshit and skepticism  is a kickass single-and I mean a kickass single. It better be Better than anything we have heard. 16 Nobody wants to hear the hype or talk about this project anymore. Shit or get off the pot. People in the industry and within the Gnr community just want to hear it. If the single is good enough, the album will sell ok just based on brand equity alone. He needs to put out the best he has right off the bat or the whole house of cards comes down for good.:peace:

Opinions Vary on this point.....I see "Instant" promotion experts popping up everywhere these days so I am kind of skeptical on automatically agreeing with every idea that pops up.

The pressure cooker is on though, and smoke is bound to erupt when you least expect it, where there's smoke....there's fire!

The Album will come out when everything is settled and ready,and that is the extent of the comments that I have on this particular post.

I live in a glass house not a card one:haha:

Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

Sky Dog wrote:

read this press release...I really think this type of release strategy would be good for Gnr....it may help overcome some of the negative shit in the media.... alot of meat and potato "music industry vs artist" issues in here

The Raconteurs are happy to announce that in one week's time their second album, entitled Consolers Of The Lonely, will be available EVERYWHERE Tuesday, March 25th.

'Album' meaning: full length vinyl, CD and digital formats; and 'everywhere' meaning: local mom and pop Indie retailers, corporate superstores, supermarkets, iTunes, Amazon, the band's own website and any other location that could get the record up and going this quickly (some places couldn't move this fast, so they will join in as soon as they can).

It contains 14 new recordings and is being released globally on Third Man Records in conjunction with our marketing/distribution partners, XL Recordings and Warner Brothers Records.

The album was mastered and completed in the first week of March. It was then taken immediately to a vinyl pressing plant. Then to a CD pressing plant. Then preparations to sell it digitally began. March 25th became the soonest date to have it available in EVERY FORMAT AT ONCE. The band have done no interviews or advertisements for this record before this announcement.

The purpose: to get the album to the fans as soon as possible and as we promised. We wanted to get this record to fans, the press, radio, etc., all at the EXACT SAME TIME so that no one has an upper hand on anyone else regarding it's availability, reception or perception.

With this release, The Raconteurs are forgoing the usual months of lead time for press and radio set up, as well as forgoing the all important 'first week sales'. We wanted to explore the idea of releasing an album everywhere at once and THEN marketing and promoting it thereafter. The Raconteurs would rather this release not be defined by it's first weeks sales, pre-release promotion, or by someone defining it FOR YOU before you get to hear it.

Another purpose was to also allow people to have their own choice as to exactly which format they would like to hear the album in IMMEDIATELY, rather than having to wait for their favorite format to become available. The band are also not releasing any version of this record that contains bonus tracks. Musically this album will be the same as the band created it no matter what format it is purchased in (The sound quality of each format however, is a different story. The Raconteurs recommend hearing it on vinyl, but the choice is of course up to the listener).

The band also prefer that fans buy the album as a whole instead of breaking up the tracks, but until iTunes and other digital services allows bands to release their albums with the option of NOT breaking it up, it will be sold in that fashion on those particular sites. On the band's website however, the album will be sold in its entirety as an mp3 at 320kb bit rate. Also in Japan, fans will be able to download the record via their mobile phones, as that is how a majority of recorded music is consumed there.

The reason we are announcing this release one week ahead of time is because of retail pre-ordering and stocking, information about this album's imminent release was bound to come to light and could be confusing to fans. Also in the event that the record leaks, we didn't want this method of release to be seen as a REACTION to such a leak. It's not. The actual worst thing about a leak is the usual poor sound quality, akin to watching a movie on a wristwatch instead of in a theater. Which for the album's creators is a bit of a letdown, but again, it is completely up to the listener.

There will be a video up on the internet for the first single, 'Salute Your Solution', on the 25th as well, provided it gets edited in time. We just filmed it the other day!

We hope not to confuse anyone with too many options, or deny them the formats that they like best. The Raconteurs feel very strongly that music has worth and should be treated as such. Thank you to all those who respect music in this fashion, and thank you to our label partners for working with us to get this album to fans in as many formats as possible all at once.

Thank you, and we hope that you enjoy Consolers Of The Lonely.

Sincerely,
The Raconteurs


fucking genius

Bumble4tus
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

Bumble4tus wrote:
madagas wrote:

read this press release...I really think this type of release strategy would be good for Gnr....it may help overcome some of the negative shit in the media.... alot of meat and potato "music industry vs artist" issues in here

The Raconteurs are happy to announce that in one week's time their second album, entitled Consolers Of The Lonely, will be available EVERYWHERE Tuesday, March 25th.

'Album' meaning: full length vinyl, CD and digital formats; and 'everywhere' meaning: local mom and pop Indie retailers, corporate superstores, supermarkets, iTunes, Amazon, the band's own website and any other location that could get the record up and going this quickly (some places couldn't move this fast, so they will join in as soon as they can).

It contains 14 new recordings and is being released globally on Third Man Records in conjunction with our marketing/distribution partners, XL Recordings and Warner Brothers Records.

The album was mastered and completed in the first week of March. It was then taken immediately to a vinyl pressing plant. Then to a CD pressing plant. Then preparations to sell it digitally began. March 25th became the soonest date to have it available in EVERY FORMAT AT ONCE. The band have done no interviews or advertisements for this record before this announcement.

The purpose: to get the album to the fans as soon as possible and as we promised. We wanted to get this record to fans, the press, radio, etc., all at the EXACT SAME TIME so that no one has an upper hand on anyone else regarding it's availability, reception or perception.

With this release, The Raconteurs are forgoing the usual months of lead time for press and radio set up, as well as forgoing the all important 'first week sales'. We wanted to explore the idea of releasing an album everywhere at once and THEN marketing and promoting it thereafter. The Raconteurs would rather this release not be defined by it's first weeks sales, pre-release promotion, or by someone defining it FOR YOU before you get to hear it.

Another purpose was to also allow people to have their own choice as to exactly which format they would like to hear the album in IMMEDIATELY, rather than having to wait for their favorite format to become available. The band are also not releasing any version of this record that contains bonus tracks. Musically this album will be the same as the band created it no matter what format it is purchased in (The sound quality of each format however, is a different story. The Raconteurs recommend hearing it on vinyl, but the choice is of course up to the listener).

The band also prefer that fans buy the album as a whole instead of breaking up the tracks, but until iTunes and other digital services allows bands to release their albums with the option of NOT breaking it up, it will be sold in that fashion on those particular sites. On the band's website however, the album will be sold in its entirety as an mp3 at 320kb bit rate. Also in Japan, fans will be able to download the record via their mobile phones, as that is how a majority of recorded music is consumed there.

The reason we are announcing this release one week ahead of time is because of retail pre-ordering and stocking, information about this album's imminent release was bound to come to light and could be confusing to fans. Also in the event that the record leaks, we didn't want this method of release to be seen as a REACTION to such a leak. It's not. The actual worst thing about a leak is the usual poor sound quality, akin to watching a movie on a wristwatch instead of in a theater. Which for the album's creators is a bit of a letdown, but again, it is completely up to the listener.

There will be a video up on the internet for the first single, 'Salute Your Solution', on the 25th as well, provided it gets edited in time. We just filmed it the other day!

We hope not to confuse anyone with too many options, or deny them the formats that they like best. The Raconteurs feel very strongly that music has worth and should be treated as such. Thank you to all those who respect music in this fashion, and thank you to our label partners for working with us to get this album to fans in as many formats as possible all at once.

Thank you, and we hope that you enjoy Consolers Of The Lonely.

Sincerely,
The Raconteurs


fucking genius

I read it, smart move on their part....but "Consolers of the Lonely" isn't in CHIDEM's League....nor are the Raconteurs close to being GNRs.....

As Bob Dylan once wrote.."The times they are a'changing"  This rings so true for the recording industry!

For GNRs is ain't all about $$$ It is about presentation, Promotion, and Quality, would you expect anything else? w.

Communist China
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

Well GN'R isn't in control of the promotion beyond appearances, interviews, and concerts. All of which may or may not happen, because Axl won't do anything if he can't have everything. Interscope is in this for the money, 100%.

Did you just sign that post with a "w."? Why?

RussTCB
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

RussTCB wrote:

removed

Bumble4tus
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

Bumble4tus wrote:
russtcb wrote:

Just a side note to the people that keep making remarks about how much The Racontuers may or may not matter: Jack White is about the most exciting and relevant person in rock today. He will be remembered as a legend.

Jack white doesn't enter into "legend" territory in my book! Zep, Sabbath, Cooper, Queen, Aerosmith.
Satriani, vai, Petrucchi......

Jack white doesn't hold a match to Jimmy Page.......he has dues to pay......and I dont see where he is that relevant or "exciting"...certainly not "dangerous" like all good rock.....

bigbri
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

bigbri wrote:

Boring.

Communist China
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

bigbri wrote:

Boring.

What's boring?

bigbri
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

bigbri wrote:
Communist China wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Boring.

What's boring?

Bumble4tus. The act is old. The "instant expert" on everything is a little played out.

Abbey_Road
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Re: Thoughts and conspiracies

Abbey_Road wrote:
Bumble4tus wrote:
russtcb wrote:

Just a side note to the people that keep making remarks about how much The Racontuers may or may not matter: Jack White is about the most exciting and relevant person in rock today. He will be remembered as a legend.

Jack white doesn't enter into "legend" territory in my book! Zep, Sabbath, Cooper, Queen, Aerosmith.
Satriani, vai, Petrucchi......

Jack white doesn't hold a match to Jimmy Page.......he has dues to pay......and I dont see where he is that relevant or "exciting"...certainly not "dangerous" like all good rock.....

Jim Morrison = legend to me.

But are you just referring to alive legends?

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