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Intercourse
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Intercourse wrote:

Slash's success may not fit every puritants bill but a success he is and still widely regarded as a guitar legend.
I don't see what is more of a bigger joke here, Slash making the best use of the resources he has versus Axl squandering all of his.

mickronson
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

mickronson wrote:

I suppose advertising Guitar "Hero" on tv was a sell out...  slash cant win whatever he does

Olorin
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Olorin wrote:

Chinese Democracy was sold to Best Buy, had a song on Rock band, had a song on that Leonardo DeCaprio film, will have the whole album on Rock Band shortly and was delayed going on sale until the Christmas shopping season. Some folk call that selling out, some folk call it just business.

Intercourse
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Intercourse wrote:

It's true Mick. What else can the guy do? Take Jimmy Page for example, the man has languished in the shadows since Led Zep ended and despite his legenday status has never found a way forward without his old band.
At least Slash had a No. 1 album, hit singles and a grammy with his second band. That's rare for a blues RNR guitar guy that is not the frontman.

The man is working to stay current and is out there doing it for himself. I mean 20 years after AFD, he was chosen to play 'Hey Joe' to honor Jimi at the RNR Hall of Fame. That's a big deal.

I didn't realise that this forum had so many high achievers who can honestly regard his obvious talent, platinum second band, grammy and best selling book a 'joke'.

Anyay, nobody seems to be willing to answer my question. When all information regarding the shit that went down with GNR is compiled, I just cannot see where Slash went inhumanely beyond all mercy in his pursuit of Axl when his actions are compared to the others. So why the bitterness?

As i said I am am massive fan of both men, but Slash takes the high ground by admitting his bitterness, depression and anger with Axl and his end in GNR  but that he gotten past that and has moved on.

He doesn't seem jealous or bitter about people out touring the world in a band he helped define, playing songs he helped write with guitar lines that will remain immortal.

I just wish Axl, an articulate deep thinking and fantastically talented man, would do more than pop out of the shadows to piss on almost every entity he has had to interact with. And quit the Slash thing already. He's capable  of so much more.

Intercourse
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Intercourse wrote:

For anyone, regardless of opinion:

Slash jammin' and always on the money...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uv56R3m … re=related

Olorin
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Olorin wrote:

I think all the guys said things of a similar vein about leaving GN'R, Slash just did more interviews and said it more often.

Heres exerts of an interview with Duff in Hard Force Magazine 99, it seems to be just as, if not more critical than anything Slash said:


HF : After you finished the tour with NO, the medias started to talk about line-up problems in Guns N’ Roses. Was this the beginning of the band’s downfall?

D : Everything started when Slash turned his back and said : « This is shit. » [referring to their musical differences.] He and Axl didn’t talk to each other anymore. It had become quite irrational.

HF : The communication between them?

D : About schedules and the way Axl was late for the next album. Susan, my girlfriend, was pregnant. We were going to have a baby, but this band was becoming a dictatorship, everything had to get done in Axl’s way or it wouldn’t get done at all. It wasn’t like that when we started out. At one point, we were offered a huge sum of money to play a concert in Germany. I thought : « I never played for money and I’m not gonna start now! ». I’ve got a house, I’m secure financially. Post-Neurotic was the worst moment of my career in Guns. I went out for dinner with Axl and I told him : « Enough is enough. This band is a dictatorship and I don’t see myself playing in those conditions. Find someone else. »

HF : Why did Axl become so egomaniac and arrogant?

D : Because many people around him maintain him in that state of mind. They kept telling him he was right. Some of them feared him cause they were scared they were gonna lose their job. It’s as simple as that. I don’t want to do anything that goes against what I am now. I’m honest with myself and with the people surrounding me. Had I stayed with Axl, I would have acted against my personality. And nothing worse could ever happen to me. In this story, the real losers are Guns N’ Roses fans, unfortunately.

HF : Why didn’t you pursue your career with Slash and Matt, in another band?

D : I believe this will happen. And I think that would be fabulous. We’re very close friends as well as with Izzy. We’re in daily contact. Slash, Matt and myself played at the Slamdance film festival [ in Park City, Utah.] You can’t create a good feeling between three or four people. It has to be already there. And when we played together, not only was there the feeling, but also a big energy. Those who attended that show probably remember it cause it was really powerful. We felt so good on-stage that the music just seemed to flow. It was one of those magic nights....

HF : Don’t you think it’s a bit unfair to play this semi-Guns concert, given that the band’s not complete?

D : We play together very often and what would be unfair would be to ask us to stop doing it. It would be like forbidding a kid to go play outside with his friends or telling him, if his parents were divorced, that he had to stop seeing one of them. But I think that, if we don’t want to form a band right now, it’s because we want to get away from that Guns image. We’d like to prove to ourselves that we are musicians. I left Guns N’ Roses because the band didn’t correspond to me anymore. What’s left of the band has nothing to do with what we had created. I even think what’s left is not Guns N’ Roses.

HF : How did you react when Axl hired the bassist Tommy Stinson [ex-Replacements] and the guitarist Robin Finck [ex-Nine Inch Nails]?

D : I played with Robin a few times and he’s a great guy. But if I were Axl, in no way would I call that band Guns N’ Roses. The kids know GNR. No need to explain you, just listen to the albums we recorded. You can’t argue with that. For me, too much discussion would make the music lose its value. The kids have an idea of what that band is. My reaction? I thought : « This is not cool, it’s not the right thing to do, but it’s none of my business. If he thinks it’s right.... »

HF : So you’re not friend with Axl any longer?

D : Yes I am, but it doesn’t mean we agree on everything. We’ve been thinking too much about this band. We’ve been teenagers together, we became adults together. Nobody can ask me not to be friend anymore with my brother. But he’s got a problem : too many people around him confusing his mind. To be honest, he probably doesn’t live in the same world as you and me.

HF : We can only hope for better days.

D : Yes and I hope Axl won’t feel like I let him down. I was just honest. I didn’t wish to go on that way. I don’t think it’s fair for our fans, and it’s certainly not fair for Slash and myself since we were the founders of this band too and contributed to its identity. But life is unfair, so I’m not gonna waste my time complaining.

Olorin
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Olorin wrote:

I have a Classic Rock magazine interview with Slash where he says he quit because Axl was an "asshole", I guess thats pretty harsh.

Intercourse
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Intercourse wrote:

again no worse than Izzy said..

faldor
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faldor wrote:
Intercourse wrote:

again no worse than Izzy said..

They've all said bad things about each other.  That stuff happens.  I'm not so sure why people are getting so bent out of shape about Axl talking shit about Slash.  Slash has done his fair share.  All is fair in love and war.

Olorin
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Re: Axl Rose Speaks to Billboard

Olorin wrote:

Mabye its because Slash talked shit about Axls friend Paul Huge? I can imagine that pissing off a few people. Its not like Paul has a public platform to defend himself.

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