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zombux
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Re: Neurotic Outsiders & co. tour dates - summary?

zombux wrote:

OK, and while I was doing that research on Loaded, it would be cool to have Neurotic Outsiders as well.
so here they are.
Duff did more shows during that obscure era between his medical treatment (1994) and starting VR (2002), for example doing some shows with The Gentlemen (some were happening during the same era as early Loaded), Black Dog and other projects.
but those are way too much obscure even for me, and internet sources are extremely scarce about those, so sorry I guess.

1995-??-??: (or maybe 2014-12-??) Tonight Show with Jay Leno (filmed). Billy Idol, Steve Stevens, Matt Sorum, Duff McKagan: Christmas in the USA.
1995-01-30: Club Shelter, Pasadena (recorded). Billy Idol, Steve Stevens, Matt Sorum, Duff McKagan play a benefit with Motley Crue and friends: Communication Breakdown / Shakin' All Over / Paranoid / Rebel Yell.
1995-03-10: Las Vegas, The Joint (filmed). Matt Sorum (drums), Duff McKagan (bass), Eric Mesmerize (guitar) and Steve Stevens (guitar), plus additional musicians, play together as "Wayne Neutron". Guests include Seal, Sheryl Crow, Weezer, Bo Diddley and BB King. Steve Jones appears as a guest on Black Leather (guitar and vocals), plus Raw Power and I Wanna Be Your Dog (guitar and backing vocals), the latter two with Iggy Pop on vocals. Billy Idol guests on Shakin' All Over and Rebel Yell.

1995-06-28: First gig, the Viper Room, Hollywood, CA. Songs played included: No Fun / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Raw Power / Pretty Vacant / New Rose / Janie Jones / Virginia Plain (Roxy Music) / Planet Earth (Duran Duran).
1995-09-11: Hollywood, Viper Room
1995-09-18: Hollywood, Viper Room, (Mr Moo's Futurama club night), with guest Brian Setzer: Planet Earth / ? / Let Go / Raw Power / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Silly Thing / The Story Of My Life / (Union?) / Pretty Vacant / New Rose / Bodies / ? / Something Else (w/ Brian Setzer on vocals) / Virginia Plain / All My Loving (w/ Brian Setzer) / Janie Jones (w/ Brian Setzer). 2 tracks are available as an audio recording: Planet Earth / Virginia Plain.
1995-09-25: Hollywood Viper Room. 4 tracks are available as an audio recording : Janie Jones / Feelings Are Good / Always Wrong / Down Again.
1995-09-30: Las Vegas, The Joint (recorded and filmed: full gig + soundcheck): Soundcheck: Nasty Ho / Always Wrong / No Fun (with Slash from Guns n' Roses) . Gig: Planet Earth / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Feelings Are Good / Down Again / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Virginia Plain / Pretty Vacant / Bodies / New Rose / Black Leather (with Slash) / All My Loving / Janie Jones / No Fun (with Slash).
1995-10-02: Hollywood, Viper Room
1995-10-09: Hollywood, Viper Room
1995-10-15: Hollywood, Viper Room
1995-10-16: Hollywood Viper Room, with guests Billy Idol and Simon LeBon (full show recorded): Nasty Ho / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Down Again / Feelings Are Good / Always Wrong / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Bodies / Janie Jones / Planet Earth / Careless Memories / New Rose / Stepping Stone / Pretty Vacant / Ready Steady Go / No Fun
1995-10-20: New York, NY, Irving Plaza (full show recorded): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power/ I Wanna Be Your Dog / Feelings Are Good / Always Wrong / Down Again / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Janie Jones / Bodies / New Rose / Black Leather (w/ Slash) / Stepping Stone (w/ Slash & Billy Idol)/ Pretty Vacant (w/Slash & Billy Idol) / Ready Steady Go (w/Slash & Billy Idol) / No Fun (w/Slash & Billy Idol).
1995-10-21: Philadelphia, PA, The Trocadero (full gig recorded: Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Feelings Are Good / Down Again / Always Wrong / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Janie Jones / Bodies / New Rose / Stepping Stone / Ready Steady Go / Pretty Vacant / No Fun
1995-10-22: Boston, Mama Kin, with guest Billy Idol: Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power/ I Wanna Be Your Dog / Feelings Are Good / Always Wrong / Down Again / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Janie Jones / Bodies / New Rose / Black Leather / Ready Steady Go (w/ Billy Idol) / Pretty Vacant (w/ Billy Idol). The audience includes Steve Tyler, Joe Perry and Tom Hamilton from Aerosmith, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, plus actor and former Blues Brother Dan Akyord.
1995-10-29: Hollywood, Viper Room
1995-12-22: Costa Mesa, CA, Lava Room

1996-01-04: Tucson, AZ
1996-01-05: Phoenix, Nile Theater
1996-01-06: Ventura, Ventura Theater
1996-01-07: Santa Cruz, CA, The Catalyst (full show recorded): Planet earth / Nasty Ho / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Feelings Are Good / Always Wrong / Stepping Stone / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Six feet under / New Rose / Bodies / Janie Jones / Black Leather / Pretty Vacant / Union / Something Else / No Fun
1996-01-09: Orangevale, CA, Boardwalk Cafe (full show recorded) : Planet Earth / Nasty Ho ! / Jerk / Silly Thing / Raw Power / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Feelings Are Good / Always Wrong / Stepping Stone / Story Of My Life / Revolution / Six Feet Under / New Rose / Bodies / Black Leather / Janie Jones / Pretty Vacant / Union / Something Else / No Fun
1996-01-10: San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
1996-01-12: Seattle, The Crocodile
1996-01-13: Seattle, RKCNDY
1996-01-14: Portland, la Luna
1996-01-16: San Diego, The 4th and B
1996-01-29: Hollywood, Viper Room
1996-02-06: Las Vegas, Mazzotti's
1996-02-08: Denver, Mercury Cafe
1996-02-10: Hollywood, Viper Room
1996-06-25: London, England, Borderline
1996-09-05: New York, NY, Webster Hall. Glen Matlock is in the audience.
1996-09-06: Boston, MA, Mama Kin (full show recorded) : Planet Earth / Nasty Ho ! / Good News / Always Wrong /Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Revolution / Union / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies
1996-09-07: Washington, DC, Bayon Theatre
1996-09-08: Toronto, Canada, The Warehouse (full show recorded): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Black Leather / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join the Professionals / New Rose / Bodies
1996-09-09: Rockline FM radio show. While in Toronto, the band take part in a radio phone-in and perform 3 live tracks in the studio: Good News / Feelings Are Good / Jerk
1996-09-10: Neurotic Outsiders album is released on Madonna's label Maverick Records.
1996-09-13: Pontiac, MI, Sanctum (not Detroit as sometimes listed) (full show recorded): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Black Leather / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies
1996-09-14: Chicago, IL, Double Door
1996-09-15: Dallas, TX, Deep Ellum Live
1996-09-16: Tempe, AZ, Electric Ballroom (full show recorded and filmed): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Join The Professionals / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / New Rose / Bodies (w/ Slash) / Black Leather (w/ Slash) / No Fun (w/ Slash)
1996-09-17: John Taylor and Steve Jones appear on LoveLine (KROQ Los Angeles)
1996-09-18: Los Angeles, CA, Whisky
1996-09-23: Paris, Le Gibus: Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Black Leather / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies (4 songs from the show were broadcast on the radio) : Always Wrong / Angelina / Jerk / Good News
1996-09-24: Munich, Incognito (full gig recorded) : Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Black Leather / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies
1996-09-26: London, Astoria/LA2, (full show recorded): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Black Leather / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies. Paul Cook is in the audience.
1996-09-27: Hamburg, Germany, Logo (full show recorded): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Black Leather / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies / No Fun
1996-09-28: Cologne, Luxor, Germany (full gig recorded): Planet Earth / Nasty Ho / Good News / Always Wrong / Angelina / Silly Thing / Better Way / Feelings Are Good / Raw Power / Revolution / Union / Black Leather / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / Join The Professionals / New Rose / Bodies / No Fun

1999-04-05: Viper Room
1999-04-19: Viper Room (full show recorded): Nasty Ho / Silly Thing / Always Wrong / Black Leather / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Revolution / Story Of My Life / Feelings Are Good / New Rose / Janie Jones / Six Feet Under / Jerk / Bodies (w/ members of The Cult, Ian Astbury & Billy Duffy) / Wildflower (w/ Astbury and Duffy) / Love Removal Machine (w/ Astbury and Duffy)
1999-04-26: Viper Room (full show recorded): Nasty Ho / Silly Thing / Always Wrong / Black Leather / I Wanna Be Your Dog / Story Of My Life / New Rose / Janie Jones / Jerk / Six Feet Under / White Wedding (w/ Spice Girl Mel C) / Pretty Vacant (w/ Mel C) / Anarchy In The UK (w/ Mel C) / Wild Flower (w/ members of The Cult, Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy) / Love Removal Machine (w/ Astbury and Duffy) / Bodies (w/ Astbury and Duffy)

2006-12-07: Viper Room: Bodies / New Rose / Janie Jones, played in the middle of Camp Freddy show, then everybody joined up onstage to play I Wanna Be Your Dog.

sources:
http://www.philjens.plus.com/kickdown/n … meline.htm
http://celebiography.net/neurotic-outsiders.html

ClaudeF
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Re: Neurotic Outsiders & co. tour dates - summary?

ClaudeF wrote:

I saw the January 1996 gig at the Crocodile Cafe. I recorded the show and got a copy of the setlist. One thing to note: At the time, "Jerk" was entitled "Cunt."

The band had a tour bus parked right outside. Duff hung out with the audience in the lobby/waiting area before the show, chatting with friends (he had grown up in Seattle). I talked to him for all of, like, 10 seconds because he was trying to avoid the rock star vibe and just reconnect with folks. That all changed when Steve Jones walked in. I remember he word a velvet jacket with a collar that was turned up. He looked like a gentleman rock star.

They opened with a cover of "Planet Earth,"  bunch of girls in the audience singing along and yelling "Switch it up!" like Simon LeBon used to do. That was the pop moment. After that, they ROARED. Tore the place apart. I can't recall the exact order of the songs, and can't get to my tape right now, but I remember they did "Nasty Ho" "Angelina," "Revolution," and "Union" for sure.

Afterward the band made a beeline for the bus and that was pretty much it!

I remember they were called Neurotic Boy Outsiders at the time. While in Seattle they also did an invitation-only show, which I think might have been a matinee. Back then Duff had a relative working for Muzak (a brother or cousin, I think) so maybe it was a corporate gig?

I wish I'd had the money to see the all-ages show at RKCNDY the next day!

Are you looking for information specifically about Duff? He did some reunion shows with 10 Minute Warning, which had a new lead singer. I caught them at a place called Sit & Spin in downtown Seattle (It was - no joke - a concert venue and laundromat. You'd see some guy with a mohawk waiting for his clothes to dry). As I recall, Slash was in town the same night. Only about 20 or 30 people were there for 10 Minute Warning, so all of the GNR fans must have been at the Snakepit gig!

The Gentlemen featured him and Dave from The Presidents of the United States of America. I never caught them but did see Duff with P.U.S.A. at a show they did in a recording studio in Seattle, which was filmed for release on DVD (You can still find it cheap). I sat on the floor right by the amps, and afterwards Duff said he worried about my hearing! We chatted for a little bit, discussing Neurotic (Boy) Outsiders and some of the guest singers they had over the years. He said Sporty Spice was a great vocalist, and he couldn't believe she had such a powerful voice for so small a woman. I didn't bring up GNR at all, not knowing if it was a sore subject at the time.

Really great guy. If you ever get the chance to talk to him, do it!

zombux
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Re: Neurotic Outsiders & co. tour dates - summary?

zombux wrote:

well, the NO shows are summed up pretty nicely, so nothing missing here I guess. this list was just a by-product of searching for Loaded tour dates, and I thought this would be cool to have here too smile

the obscure part is the Loaded beginnings - the band started as The Gentlemen to promote Beautiful Disease, sometime in 1998, and later changed name to Loaded, I think the renaming happened in 1998. Loaded then toured and their tour dates are pretty much known since 1999-03-17, but before that date it's extremely hard to find some dates, I only managed to find a few through fans' memories on old Loaded sites, mostly through the Web Archive.
see this list http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=14577
there's some confusion because after Loaded were disbanded in 1999, they were reformed in 2000. and paralelly, The Gentlemen were also reformed, this time just as a duo (Duff and Dave), that played some gigs, dressed in... well, dresses. but I'm not after tour dates of this Gentlemen reincarnation, the current target was to hunt the early Loaded pre-1999-03-17 dates only smile

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