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#1 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 391 weeks ago
Reading that article it basically says, "the more non white people we get in Texas, the better chance the Dems can win it". That is so fucking racist. Why not try to get everyone'a votes instead of pandering to just blacks and Hispanics. I hope the blacks and Hispanics take over the dem party and vote out all the white Dems that went out of their way to recruit them so they can stay in power. How about we do what is best for all of America regardless of race...
That's racist, but the party who alienates everyone who isn't a white, heterosexual, Christian isn't racist? Why is it racist when a party wants to court non-whites, but it isn't racist when a party wants to exclude everyone who isn't white?
#2 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
Acquiesce wrote:LOL you try to imply Hillary is a racist because of her association with a former racist, but drop a load in your diaper when someone wonders what it must mean for Trump defenders. I can post his comments about Mexicans or judge Curiel or being sued for discrimination back in the day and you'll just deny he is a racist. That's fine. People tend to keep their racism in the closest so I don't expect you to admit Trump at the very least makes bigoted comments. I'll stop posting about it when I want to stop posting about it, thank you very much.
No, I want a level playing field. Either association is okay for both or it isn't. If Trump is racist by association, so is she. It's amazing how people justify selectively burying their heads in the sand and try to make you out to be the bad guy for calling them on it.
The problem is Trump has a history of racist words and actions so no one is claiming he is merely racist by association. His racists supporters are brought up to further strengthen the evidence that he is racist because why else would they be enthusiastically supporting him in droves? He speaks their language. At best he is an opportunist who decided to kick off his campaign by speaking to the dregs of society. If he was simply against illegal immigration he would have just said that. He took it to a new level.
#3 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
Acquiesce wrote:Ya gotta love it. Bill cheats on Hillary and Hillary is a bad person because she didn't leave him LOL. She obviously cares about money, but who knows what her reasons were/are with Bill. I never been cheated on, but I have dealt with other issues and I know from personal experience that it can be hard to move on from someone who was originally so wonderful. It's not easy accepting they aren't the person you fell in love with and in her case built a life with.
Anyway Hillary staying with Bill is irrelevant. It isn't a misdeed and Trump has her beat in that categories by miles. If you want to call Hillary greedy for the millions she and Bill has made - fine, but that still pales in comparison to Trump screwing over the little guy every chance he gets for his own personal gain.
She's not a leader. She's a follower. She has no personal integrity. All those things are major issues. They are personality traits of hers. She was against gay marriage until she found political gains there and suddenly changed her mind...one of many examples of her weakness in convictions. She stands for nothing other than personal gains. Again, not a good trait for a leader.
I don't disagree and it's one of the reasons I didn't vote for her in the primaries. I just don't see how Trump is any better when he just says what people wants to hear and has no real policy or substance. Trump is all about personal gain so at worst it is a wash between those two in this area.
#4 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
LOL you try to imply Hillary is a racist because of her association with a former racist, but drop a load in your diaper when someone wonders what it must mean for Trump defenders. I can post his comments about Mexicans or judge Curiel or being sued for discrimination back in the day and you'll just deny he is a racist. That's fine. People tend to keep their racism in the closest so I don't expect you to admit Trump at the very least makes bigoted comments. I'll stop posting about it when I want to stop posting about it, thank you very much.
#5 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
Will the people calling Trump a racist please acknowledge Hillary's KKK mentor? I mean if we're going to go around and call Trump all these things, the least you can do is choose things the person you're supporting isn't equally guilty of. There's plenty of things wrong with him...no need to waste space on the flaws they both have.
Yup Hillary is so racist that the racists are flocking to her divisive policies. Oh wait a minute. She could choose a better mentor than a former racist. No doubt about that. It doesn't, however, prove she herself is racist or supports current racists. Though if supporting a former racist is horrid then what does it say about those who support or defend a current racist in Trump?
#6 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
Ya gotta love it. Bill cheats on Hillary and Hillary is a bad person because she didn't leave him LOL. She obviously cares about money, but who knows what her reasons were/are with Bill. I never been cheated on, but I have dealt with other issues and I know from personal experience that it can be hard to move on from someone who was originally so wonderful. It's not easy accepting they aren't the person you fell in love with and in her case built a life with.
Anyway Hillary staying with Bill is irrelevant. It isn't a misdeed and Trump has her beat in that categories by miles. If you want to call Hillary greedy for the millions she and Bill has made - fine, but that still pales in comparison to Trump screwing over the little guy every chance he gets for his own personal gain.
#7 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
As a feminist I think it's screwed up Hillary would lash out at women her husband slept with instead of the one who broke their wedding vows, but at the same time she was a victim, too. I hate how people try to hang her for Bill's sins. Not to mention Trump wasn't "just talking about pussy." He was a married man (with a history of infidelity) talking about trying to sleep with a married woman. Even worse is that he is talking about forcing women against their will because he is a star.
Not sure what abortion has to do with Trump's comments, but I don't see anyone saying they like abortion or necessarily agree with every single aspect about it. Just that they feel women have the right to choose.
I'm Roman Catholic, but I am currently attending a United Methodist Church since it is closest to me. 
I don't vote based on religion though I do find the hypocrisy of conservative Christians amusing especially in the case of Trump. He has anything but Christian values, but yet some bible thumpers act like Hillary is the devil that needs to be jailed. I don't get it.
#8 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
Would Christians rather have their fellow Christians vote for Hillary?
Also the comments about wanting to fuck a married woman, WHO GIVES A SHIT. HAHAHA. I talk about smashing pussy all the time.
I am a Christian. It honestly baffles me when I see Christian friends supporting Trump. It's like living in a twilight zone. Hillary has done far more to help out her fellow man in her lifetime. What exactly does Trump do to help the less fortunate and help make this world a better place? Hillary isn't perfect, nobody is, but I don't see what she has done that is so unforgivable especially compared to a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, bully who makes fun of the disabled and war heroes, dodges paying taxes, shafts the little guy to make a buck, etc. I know you said that not paying taxes isn't immoral, but I would argue you are wrong since taxes go to helping society as a whole. I also think the democratic party as a whole actually does a better job at actually implementing Christian ideals (helping those less fortunate being the chief among them) than the republican party.
Also you defending Trump's vomit inducing comments about women is the least surprising thing in this thread considering you both view women as meat.
#9 Re: The Garden » My grandma died » 398 weeks ago
It is so difficult losing a beloved family member. My condolences to you.
#10 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 400 weeks ago
Stop the harsh insults. I think you can both make your points without calling each other the most stupid motherfuckers that ever lived in every other post.
In this argument between the two of you that's went on awhile, there's definitely one aspect of it I agree with Buzz but it was pages ago....a lot of the things that caused the crash(isn't this what started this argument?) started in the 90s. Bush conveniently gets the blame and while some repubs are to blame, many of its triggers happened on Clinton's watch and the dems fully supported it all at that time. In 2008 they attempted to distance themselves from it but their own track records(and voting records) didn't lie.
Other than Acquiesce, who is voting for Stein? Acquiesce, how many people live with you? Is it around 5% of voters?
No I'm a Bernie backer voting for Hillary. I see most of the Bernie-or-Bust(ers) on twitter voting for Stein.
